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NZ's squad

hendrix

Hall of Fame Member
honestly, Sri Lanka have more of the honest hard working type players than NZ.

If NZ were still a better-than-the-sum-of-its-parts team, they wouldn't have been ranked 8 before this tournament, despite having some very decent limited overs cricketers.

If it weren't for the fact that NZ have been absolutely useless against SL, they would be favourites to win this match. Dilshan and Jayawardene are well past their peak, Malinga and Sangakkarra are also a little over the hump, and let's face is, Angelo Mathews is nowhere near as quality as cricinfo believes him to be.

NZ has more quality as a LO side. Mills and Southee are proven ODI bowlers. Guptill has been excellent in ODIs, Taylor is world class, and McCullum is a much better ODI player than test player.

The only thing right about that article is pointing out that the critical point will be how well NZ go against spin.
 

hendrix

Hall of Fame Member
On selection:

there is simply no way Vettori can be picked in this competition at all. You'd be mad. He hasn't played in years. I'm not the biggest fan of Nathan McCullum, but at least you have an idea of what to expect from him.
 

Hurricane

Hall of Fame Member
On selection:

there is simply no way Vettori can be picked in this competition at all. You'd be mad. He hasn't played in years. I'm not the biggest fan of Nathan McCullum, but at least you have an idea of what to expect from him.
certainly not this game - maybe if we get smashed in the next.
 

hendrix

Hall of Fame Member
Nah.

This attack can bowl teams out cheaply and the batting can score big runs.

What we need is consistency. If Nathan McCullum fails in one game, Vettori is just as likely to fail in the next.
 

Flem274*

123/5
Of course cricinfo ran a patronising story. You don't actually expect their writers to work for a living do you?

You can guarantee if the Saffies don't win this competition even with umpteen first choice players missing, the matches they lose will be examined with a fine comb for where the chokes began.
 

Kippax

International Captain
On selection:

there is simply no way Vettori can be picked in this competition at all. You'd be mad. He hasn't played in years. I'm not the biggest fan of Nathan McCullum, but at least you have an idea of what to expect from him.
Dominated that Finedon Dolben Invitation XI with bat and ball. Hesson did a Phlegm and said Vettori is a back-up opening option after that game ftr. :p
 

Hurricane

Hall of Fame Member
Baz needs to go back to keeping as Ronchi is dead weight. One option is to bring in either Fulton or Ruthers or Latham to open.

The other option is to hope Elliot recovers and to open with either him or Franklin.
 

Flem274*

123/5
Franklin and Elliott are far less suited to opening than Ronchi and they don't have roles suited to it nor the pay off Ronchi gives you if he succeeds.

Elliott is a middle overs accumulator, the guy you want at number five in and ODI to set the innings up and keep things moving. Franklin varies between death overs hitting and stodgy innings resurrector with very little between.

Elliott loves the little glances and runs down to third man that will get you out against the new ball. Likewise Franklin has a technique even less suited to opening the batting than Ronchi because it consists of timing and nothing else. Seriously, once that bloke's eyes go we will know because he will turn into a number eleven at domestic level overnight.

We've got an unbalanced squad and we just have to deal with it unless we can somehow fake an injury. In the meantime, give Ronchi some games since he's the best option as it is and it might just work. He is also a decent wicketkeeper and McCullum's glovework these days is dodgy, so Ronchi has to play somewhere.

After this tournament though I think we'll either see Ronchi drop down the order if there is room or Watling will get recalled.
 

Kippax

International Captain
Trying to get Ronchi away in England was pretty stupid tbh, you don't turn the treadmill setting from a 2 to a 9 and then express shock that the guy fell on his face.

Saw Rutherford try a pull shot for Essex, and he was executing a really ***y slog sweep (seriously though, Latham may well bowl a bit for Scotland).
 

Hurricane

Hall of Fame Member
Cricket | Vettori likely to be saved for England... | Stuff.co.nz

Franky batting top 3 for Glos, 966 at 51, two tons.

Sunday afternoons, county attacks who've already played their four-dayer during the week, nothing really moving the meter for anyone. Yeah I can see it tbf. :p
Ronchi seems far better suited to a middle order role and there's a case for James Franklin to push up to a spot where he had one-day success for Gloucestershire.
Just put a proper opener in - even if they get out for 10 that is more than what Luke will make.
 

GGG

State Captain
McCullum has to take the gloves, what I have seen of Ronchi is 2 miss stumpings, one of them was as simple as it gets and two very difficult dropped catches in 4 games to go with his average of about 3. He is obviously either out of form or his confidence is shot.
 

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