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    can only hope his retirement is exceeded in dirge by andreson's
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    If I was going to put money on the reasons for his pulling the plug, I'd say this was up there in the possibility stakes. The selectorial fig-leaf of publicly announcing that one's going of one's own volition whilst they shove you under the train seems to be the way a lot of distinguished test careers end.

    Moreover, I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out that Prior is missing from Melbourne having had a similar convo with the panel but probably, at 31, fancies his chances of fighting his way back in.
    Paying that, tbh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirBloody Idiot View Post
    I don't really know what to think about his retirement, really. On the one hand, I think the decision to retire mid-series was on the softer decide, but at the same time, if he didn't think he could contribute (and I'm not sure he could), it was probably the right time to go. Whatever - it's his career. I just think that as far as cricketing retirements go, it has certainly been one of the more undignified ones. Certainly, part of that is probably the spirit that this series has been played in and also the way the media has responded. But you can't really help but contrasting the manner of Swann's exit and the way that the likes of Ponting, Tendulkar and Kallis exited the game. In the latter cases, the focus has been on their achievements in the game, and not them lobbing bombs at unnamed teammates. It's a matter for him, but I think he'll probably end up regretting the way his retirement has gone. Furthermore, I don't think it has at all helped a team that is already knee deep in horse manure as it is.
    How were the retirements of Ponting and Tendulkar, who clung on until the bitter end, more dignified than Swann's?Tendulkar's retirement was the most horrible, contrived piece of nonsense I've seen.
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    Nah let's not be silly here. They at least got a chance to celebrate their careers. Whatever you think of the timing, Swann's retirement and the hullabaloo that followed is just about the most undignified way it could have gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furball View Post
    How were the retirements of Ponting and Tendulkar, who clung on until the bitter end, more dignified than Swann's?Tendulkar's retirement was the most horrible, contrived piece of nonsense I've seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    Nah let's not be silly here. They at least got a chance to celebrate their careers. Whatever you think of the timing, Swann's retirement and the hullabaloo that followed is just about the most undignified way it could have gone.
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    Swann should have gone and kept his gob shut till after the series was over seeing as he was going mid series. Been a farce he has badmouthed people (Warner) during the series but there you go, what's done is done and can't be taken back. I bet if you asked him now he'd have done it differently though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furball View Post
    How were the retirements of Ponting and Tendulkar, who clung on until the bitter end, more dignified than Swann's?Tendulkar's retirement was the most horrible, contrived piece of nonsense I've seen.
    They didn't jump ship mid-series when they were getting smashed and the team was losing, and they didn't bag people on the way out mate. It's not difficult to see the difference.

    In Ponting's case, he was recognised as offering a lot to the team environment, and if he'd have done what Swann did then he would've also copped it. You can kind of get away with it if the team has won (ala Martyn - but it was still seen as strange), but when you duck out mid-series after you've been hammered it just looks piss poor. Puts your replacements in a tough position too, they have to come into a team that is struggling and try to perform when morale is probably pretty low and many are looking at the series as done and dusted.
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