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    Langer's 'Anderson's a bit of a pussy' Dossier

    Suprised there isn't already a thread for this so thought I'd make one. It appears Justin Langer's written a dossier about some of the England players and English players in general, and it's been leaked in the Telegraph. Agree with most of it apart from his tactics against Bopara against whom I'd bowl inswingers to get him playing around that front pad. Both he and Bell have a similar weakness, it's no coincidence that this is the first time ever that England's no.3 and 4 have scored in single figures in both innings.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cri...s-dossier.html

    Vaughan's response is almost as interesting:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cri...l-Vaughan.html

    Any opinions?
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    Very interesting read, both articles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wpdavid View Post
    Anyone read it? Apparently it's as damning as you can get.
    There are links at the top of the page. Think it's fairly close to the mark given what we've seen so far, and Vaughan's reply indicates as much. The part about Bopara being a good batsman is obviously a little way off the mark though.

    Both articles are interesting.
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    Reckon that there's a fair bit to be said about his comments on Jimmy Anderson. The fact that he would have played most of his Tests in a five man attack may have covered up the fact that there is still far too much of a difference between his best and worst, and that there can't be such a difference in his attitude just because the ball is swinging.

    I'm not sure that he can be called a world class bowler, until he can be counted to produce consistency in flat conditions. I'm not asking him to take hauls in good batting conditions, just to be reliable and able to bowl in a partnership.

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    they will taper off very quickly if you wear them down in all apartments.
    That's a bit harsh, surely? Nothing wrong with some mind games during a match, but leave them on the cricket field.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Ed_ View Post
    That's a bit harsh, surely? Nothing wrong with some mind games in the during a match, but leave them on the cricket field.


    The Fanatics obviously took his advice.

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    Of course, Langer confirms the Murray Mints infamy, and Vaughan says nothing to dispel it.

    Rest of it is largely accurate too. Which might explain why they resort to the mints to try and overcome the other shortcomings.
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    Have to say I'm amazed that Tresco's little Murraymints joke seems to have found it's way into Ashes folklore - there are some gullible folk around (and bitter ones)

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    Lehmann all but confirmed today on the coverage that it happens quite regularly in County Cricket, ftr.
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    Lol at mind games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Ed_ View Post
    That's a bit harsh, surely? Nothing wrong with some mind games during a match, but leave them on the cricket field.
    He has done nothing which us fans have not debated in forums like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    Of course, Langer confirms the Murray Mints infamy, and Vaughan says nothing to dispel it.
    I'd be interested to hear your views about the Aussie jellybean infamy, Burgey.

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    In a slightly Kevin Keegan sort of way, I'd love it if we won at the Oval, preferably with The Pussy taking 10 wickets.

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