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    Semi final 1: Brazil vs Germany

    08 JUL 2014 - 17:00 Local time
    SEMI-FINALS
    Estadio Mineirao
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    BRAZIL v GERMANY

    Guessing there'll be a fair amount of away support here.
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    Definitely rooting for Germany here. Should be a fun game.
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    Can't believe so many Poms are supporting Jerry. It's so weird, like they've forgotten the number of times they've been Rodgered at tourneys by the Bosch.

    Likewise with the favourable mentions for the Argies.

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    Netherlands and Germany have a rivalry right? So we could get Brazil vs Argentina or Netherlands vs Germany? Those would be the best two combinations.


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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    Netherlands and Germany have a rivalry right? So we could get Brazil vs Argentina or Netherlands vs Germany? Those would be the best two combinations.
    OH YES. My sister's boyfriend who's Dutch absolutely HATES Germany.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    Can't believe so many Poms are supporting Jerry. It's so weird, like they've forgotten the number of times they've been Rodgered at tourneys by the Bosch.
    Shows how far Brazil have fallen.

    It has been a very slow process but who would have ever thought that the neutral would want Germany to win over Brazil? I know there are some on here that actively like the German side, I some somewhat ambivalent towards them but want them to win this one for sure.

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    Yeah it's fair to say this Brazil side isn't by any stretch a great side to watch or even a great unit. Yet they're two wins away from being world champions.

    I wonder how much of this wc's greatness has actually been a lack of a real stand out side which had dominated all its opponents or which was a raging favourite going in? There also isn't that sense of destiny about the home side like there was with, say, France in 98. It's really been a very open tourney, and IMO much better for it.

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    I hope they both lose.

    I've never been a Brazil lover anyway in fact they have always irritated me. I guess it's that none of the Brazil sides I've ever watched have been the 'traditional' Brazil. Had some awesome players through the 90s and 00s though. Reckon their 98 squad was probably better than the two that won it before and after. But they win a lot. I'm small time and don't like that.

    That being said. **** Germany.

    Ugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    Netherlands and Germany have a rivalry right? So we could get Brazil vs Argentina or Netherlands vs Germany? Those would be the best two combinations.
    Yeah the Dutch are the German's biggest rivals. Is the final I'm rooting for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GIMH View Post
    I hope they both lose.

    I've never been a Brazil lover anyway in fact they have always irritated me. I guess it's that none of the Brazil sides I've ever watched have been the 'traditional' Brazil. Had some awesome players through the 90s and 00s though. Reckon their 98 squad was probably better than the two that won it before and after. But they win a lot. I'm small time and don't like that.

    That being said. **** Germany.

    Ugh.
    I always liked them while wanting them to lose, if that makes sense. I felt the same about Spain too, and Barca against any non-major club.

    Now they're just Uruguay, possibly even filthier. Germany haven't got their blitzkrieg game going since the Portugal game (Reus's injury was huge for them) but they do noticeably dive and time-waste far less than the South American sides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uppercut View Post
    I always liked them while wanting them to lose, if that makes sense. I felt the same about Spain too, and Barca against any non-major club.

    Now they're just Uruguay, possibly even filthier. Germany haven't got their blitzkrieg game going since the Portugal game (Reus's injury was huge for them) but they do noticeably dive and time-waste far less than the South American sides.
    Yeah, this is basically my stance as well.

    Absolutely desperate for Germany to get it done. I don't love them by any stretch, but I can't stand Big Phil and Brazil, I don't find Oranje at all likeable, and the same goes for Argentina.

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    The Brazil 2002 side on paper looks like it really should have been really good to watch with Ronaldo, Rivaldo and Ronaldinho all playing to a high level. I don't really remember them being particularly great to watch though, even if I don't remember them being boring either. I'm not sure they actually played anyone decent to measure them against in the whole tournament tbf although I could be wrong. Certainly Germany were pretty poor about that sort of time, didn't they play Turkey or someone in the semi finals? And England in the quarters were, well, England.
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    Brazil of 2002 were quite entertaining iirc. Not necessarily because they were really good, but they were quite fun. Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, and Rivaldo were all great around that time, and then they had other funny players like Roque Junior, Kleberson and the Middlesbrough Juninho.

    I doubt they were as effective at winning games as this current Brazil team, but if memory serves me correctly most teams were much less conservative when reaching the knockout rounds in 2002. Mind you, whilst they may not have been particularly amazing I think they get a bit of a raw deal when it comes to people assessing their overall quality these days. It's easy to forget, as they've faded away pretty badly since, but Turkey were actually a really handy side in 2002. I don't really think Germany were as bad as is often made out these days either.

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    Brazil 2002 was definitely a better side than this one. They were certainly not classic Brazil (which most of us have never seen) but they had loads of good players, add Lucio, Roberto Carlos and Cafu to the ones Sledger has already mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sledger View Post
    Brazil of 2002 were quite entertaining iirc. Not necessarily because they were really good, but they were quite fun. Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, and Rivaldo were all great around that time, and then they had other funny players like Roque Junior, Kleberson and the Middlesbrough Juninho.

    I doubt they were as effective at winning games as this current Brazil team, but if memory serves me correctly most teams were much less conservative when reaching the knockout rounds in 2002. Mind you, whilst they may not have been particularly amazing I think they get a bit of a raw deal when it comes to people assessing their overall quality these days. It's easy to forget, as they've faded away pretty badly since, but Turkey were actually a really handy side in 2002. I don't really think Germany were as bad as is often made out these days either.
    Germany certainly were. They fluked the final in between two absolutely dreadful performances at the Euros. I've just looked up their squad and it's a who's who of utter ****.

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