Prince EWS
Global Moderator
We still have to follow it though.
-
Welcome to the Cricket Web forums, one of the biggest forums in the world dedicated to cricket.
You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join the Cricket Web community today!
If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
warne, imran, or murali?
- Thread starter hang on
- Start date
smash84
The Tiger King
I don't really see a comparison between spinners and fast bowlers. For some reason I prefer ATG fast bowlers above ATG spinners. I would have liked a Warne = Murali option because I really don't like splitting them.
Would go for Imran>Warne>Murali only because Imran as a bowler has a more complete record I think. Did well wherever he bowled. Sub 30 average in all 7 countries that he bowled in with 28 being his highest average (in NZ). Do Warne and Murali get marks for longevity in this case (Imran had a 20 year career
???)
vcs
Request Your Custom Title Now!
ATG spinners are rarer to come by than ATG pacers and help control matches better, IMO. Though it's hard for spinners to accumulate "complete" records like pacers because they find it tough in Australia without much help from the pitches and India who are freakishly good against spin. So I'm inclined to relax the "must have a complete record, or close to it" requirement for a spinner to be an ATG.
Teja.
Global Moderator
vcs
Request Your Custom Title Now!
Yeah, the pitches are hard work at times but the batsmen can struggle against them when it starts breaking up later in the match, sometimes even worse than against spinners.
vcs
Request Your Custom Title Now!
There weren't as many totally flat pitches in India in the '90s as there have been in this decade TBF. Visiting SA and Pakistani pace bowlers did pretty well in that time. Can't speak for the other subcontinent nations. After the advent of reverse swing etc., the best fast bowlers have always found ways to keep themselves in the game even with the older ball in the subcontinent.
smash84
The Tiger King
Ikki
Hall of Fame Member
Generally, Warne > Imran > Murali. It's hard comparing pacers to spinners as most spinners are disadvantaged in certain ways by bowling to settled batsmen, later with less shine on the ball and some on tracks that are less suited to spin. With that respect, I give it to Warne (who else? ) for bowling in an era of quality batsmen and some docile pitches - also dealing with home pitches that didn't suit his bowling. His record in the 00s is extraodinary, striking as fast as McGrath. Imran tends to get underrated as a pacer because of his earlier record, but look at how he did in the 80s and he is as good as Hadlee and Marshall. He was a leader and he helped the Ws become what they were as well. Murali is a fantastic bowler, a one man attack, but the reason he is 3rd here for me is because I'd be more inclined to put my money on Warne or Imran making the breakthrough and changing the game. There's really not a whole lot between all-time great bowlers.
) for bowling in an era of quality batsmen and some docile pitches - also dealing with home pitches that didn't suit his bowling. His record in the 00s is extraodinary, striking as fast as McGrath. Imran tends to get underrated as a pacer because of his earlier record, but look at how he did in the 80s and he is as good as Hadlee and Marshall. He was a leader and he helped the Ws become what they were as well. Murali is a fantastic bowler, a one man attack, but the reason he is 3rd here for me is because I'd be more inclined to put my money on Warne or Imran making the breakthrough and changing the game. There's really not a whole lot between all-time great bowlers.
Last edited:
smash84
The Tiger King
Agree with the difficult to compare fast bowlers and spinners. Very different conditions in which they are required to bowl. Also I don't think that spinners can bowl too well with the new ball. It doesn't give them the grip that they need to spin the ball well.Generally, Warne > Imran > Murali. It's hard comparing pacers to spinners as most spinners are disadvantaged in certain ways by bowling to settled batsmen, later with less shine on the ball and some on tracks that are less suited to spin. With that respect, I give it to Warne (who else?
Ikki
Hall of Fame Member
That's the thing though, they rarely get it so it's hard to tell. From what I remember of Warne bowling earlier (as he did in the Ashes in the last test IIRC) he was awesome. Warne himself said it is good variation as he can get more bounce (which Warne attributes a lot of success to) and it will move faster in the air. If they can do it regularly and specialise that could help their SRs much more (as well as being able to bowl to less settled batsmen).
Himannv
Hall of Fame Member
Maximus0723
State Regular
Right now I have Warne as the worst between these 3 (saying alot when I have him in my XI 
). But it's still splitting hair. It's just mad close b/w him and Murali.
). But it's still splitting hair. It's just mad close b/w him and Murali.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
I've held that opinion for longer than you tbh; you just posted in the thread first.Hi Ingram
