Using the term "rape"

[Adamc]

We're not going to add it to the filter because there's times when the word will come up in legitimate conversation.

Heh. I remember when words like '******', 'torrent', 'bastard' etc. and and any words containing those words (e.g. 'torrential') were all filtered. I argued against them being filtered using the same argument you've just made but apparently it didn't fly back then. Still, progress is good, even if it takes several years.

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

Heh. I remember when words like '******', 'torrent', 'bastard' etc. and and any words containing those words (e.g. 'torrential') were all filtered. I argued against them being filtered using the same argument you've just made but apparently it didn't fly back then. Still, progress is good, even if it takes several years.

Good old days.

 

[HeathDavisSpeed]

I argued against them being filtered using the same argument you've just made but apparently it didn't fly back then. Still, progress is good, even if it takes several years.

What torrent of bastards came up with such a ******** idea? Wankers.

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

ashw33 ch0rk iirc

 

[HeathDavisSpeed]

ashw33 ch0rk iirc

I retract my previous statement. I assumed it was Borcich.

 

[silentstriker]

As others have mentioned, people use other metaphors like "killed", "murdered", or describing something as a "cancer" all of which are very common. However, the word "rape" might be worthy of being an exception because where you might see the other words being used by legitimate news sources, eg "match fixing is a cancer infecting the sport", you'd never hear the word rape really being used. Not all words are treated equally in our culture - and I don't think it's useful to pretend that are, so the fact that we allow the word "killed" is not a valid excuse to allow the word "rape".

Using the word "gay" in a derogatory way is another one, which is clear cut IMO because, as others have pointed out, while the other terms are negative in their nature and are used to describe negative things, it's not a coincidence that "gay" was chosen to mean "bad" instead of "straight" or something like that.

So I think the policy is pretty fair.

 

[Athlai]

I had a search through the instances of it being used over the last 3 years in cricket chat. Very few overall usages really most were on legitimate discussion over actual off the field misdemeanors.

 

[G.I.Joe]

This reminds me of the Back to the Future forums that had a thread devoted to an argument over the usage of the word 'dude' in the third part.

 

[Himannv]

Personally I'm in favour of coming up with a list of words to be used with a bit more sensitivity. It could be added into the forum rules topic (which should ideally be stickied into every subforum as not everyone goes out of their way to find it in the Forum Announcements section).

 

[sledger]

Come off it, as I've said before, there is no need whatsoever to have a list of "sensitive" words. Unless someone's a complete moron they will know when a word is appropriate to use in a certain context, and thus when its use would not be suitable. If a word is de facto not to be used then it can be filtered, if not then just don't be juvenile as to its use. The last thing the site needs is people whinging along the lines of: "but it's not on the sensitive words list" after they've just been warned/punished for posting something which is obviously completely inappropriate.

 

[Himannv]

Fair enough. Reason I suggested it was some people may not be aware that such usage is frowned upon and it may serve to improve the quality of their posts.

You're right though, its something that shouldn't need to be said and yes, I can see plenty of posters saying "but it's not on the sensitive words list" which would probably give the mods more headaches than they already have.

 

[Prince EWS]

Come off it, as I've said before, there is no need whatsoever to have a list of "sensitive" words. Unless someone's a complete moron they will know when a word is appropriate to use in a certain context, and thus when its use would not be suitable. If a word is de facto not to be used then it can be filtered, if not then just don't be juvenile as to its use. The last thing the site needs is people whinging along the lines of: "but it's not on the sensitive words list" after they've just been warned/punished for posting something which is obviously completely inappropriate.

Yeah AWTA.

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

tbf, words that are quite offensive overseas sometimes aren't in other countries. For example, pee ay kay eye is apparently extremely offensive in the UK whereas here it isn't at all.

 

[sledger]

wat

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

ind33d

 

[sledger]

Oh, got it. Yeah, wouldn't use it around these parts. Doubt anything good would come of it.

Thought you were attempting to type in Geordie/Scouse dialect or something.

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

So yeah, I don't think a list of potentially offensive words would be so bad, the forum is quite multi-cultural and certain words have different connotations in different countries. That said, dilligaf.

 

[Jono]

Yeah I remember many people were confused when some people found that word offensive and others didn't.

There is fresh evidence which suggests the moderators have no idea as to context and what posters mean at any given time..

Personally, the term is offensive. It's typically used by posters who are that young their idea of experience of the world is seeing an attractive woman on the way to school or uni and walking around with a fat a cat couldn't scratch for an hour afterwards. If you're that stupid, and those who run the site are that stupid, that they can't see using that word in the context of a sporting performance is at best disrespectful and inappropriate, and at worst offensive, then you're a pack of idiots. No wonder there are about three female members of the site, if unherently misogynist terms like this are tolerated.

I really can't believe the moderators would tolerate its use. Actually, I can. They're more interested in things that are far more "important" I suppose right now.

It's a ****ing joke that any of them would post seriously about "forum atmosphere" yet not raise an eyebrow as some idiot savant kid with two hairs on his chest and one on each testicle whose idea of being ***ually experienced is bumping into a woman on the train says "X is raping Y here".

It's a **** word. It shouldn't be made light of by using it in the context referred to in this thread and it should be filtered. The fact you even have to have a discussion about it speaks volumes for the priorities of the site and those who administer its every day functioning.

I'm confused why you attacked the mods and not the people who were defending the use of the term 'rape' in this thread.

 

[four_or_six]

I think, as Sledger says, having a list would probably just lead to discussion about what is and isn't on the list.

I think in the main if we genuinely think someone isn't aware something is offensive, we have just asked them not to use that word again. In my experience people who weren't meaning to offend in the first place just apologise and don't use it after that.

 

[Son Of Coco]

When there are so many other words available to use to describe one team flogging another I don't see why anyone would choose 'rape'.