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Test XI for The Last Quarter Century

srbhkshk

International Captain
I think that analysis was done ( unless it's again about some factor which can't be captured with stats), ABD and Kohli don't strike as faster compared to his peers as Richards did, but their averages are superior to Richards.
 

Jack1

International Debutant
I can't believe so many people have bought into the meme of Kohli being some excellent fielder. The guy has cost us matches with his poor catching yet continues to put himself in the slips like he's Mark Waugh or something. His athleticism is vastly overblown too, doesn't even throw himself around as much as you'd expect.
He's not excellent, he's better than Tendulkar and Lara though in the field that's all I said and therefore is going to save runs compared to them in any format over the course of the game. I didn't compare him to Collingwood and Jonty Rhones that's for sure

He's a good fielder outside of the cordon. Did pretty well in the IPL by covering huge ground on the boundary. He's nowhere near as good as Ponting obv.
Kohli is a decent enough fielder. I was comparing his fielding and batting to Tendulkar and Lara only in the comment he replied to. Ponting was really good in the field yes.
 
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smash84

The Tiger King
I think that analysis was done ( unless it's again about some factor which can't be captured with stats), ABD and Kohli don't strike as faster compared to his peers as Richards did, but their averages are superior to Richards.
Are their averages superior to richards in comparison to their peers as well?
 

Bolo

State Captain
Viv is 37% ahead of era strike rate and 60% ahead of era averages.
Kohli is 13.4% and 100%
AB is 24% and 84% (roughly, I just used Kohlis era, so he's probably ahead by more in sr).

Its not really a clear-cut case for any of them being above the others. I think strike rate is more valuable so I wouldn't vote Kohli. AB shades Viv by a lot more in average than Viv does for sr though. A case to be made for either.
 

Burgey

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Dean Jones not getting a mention here. Much as I hate him, his numbers for the era he played in were phenomenal too.
 

trundler

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Dean Jones not getting a mention here. Much as I hate him, his numbers for the era he played in were phenomenal too.
Yeah, but he's an idiot.

Viv vs ABDV is especially tough, considering that both of them were more or less equally entertaining to watch as well.
 

Burgey

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Not an easy comparison. De Villiers is a great innovator as well as powerful. Viv was bombing sixes over mid off and cover in an era when no one else did it. Basically invented the front foot pull shot too.

Most intimidating batsman I’ve ever seen, by miles. Had the game, had the intensity and had the swagger. Never backed down against anyone. **** he was a great player.
 

trundler

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Viv was backing up and hitting sixes over extra cover before anyone and that's as thrilling a sight as ABDV's more unorthodox shots. Really entertaining. Viv was averaging 50+ and striking at 95 at one point but we all know his slump at the end. Viv was a much winner if there's ever been one, maybe that tilts it in his favour?
 

Mr Miyagi

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Viv was backing up and hitting sixes over extra cover before anyone and that's as thrilling a sight as ABDV's more unorthodox shots. Really entertaining. Viv was averaging 50+ and striking at 95 at one point but we all know his slump at the end. Viv was a much winner if there's ever been one, maybe that tilts it in his favour?
Viv never had to face WI bowling and ABdV got to dine often on WI bowling :ph34r:
 

Red

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If you wanna pick an ODI side on fielding skills there's a lot of merit to that I reckon. Good fielding in ODIs has traditionally been more important than in either of the other formats imo. And we've seen some sensational fielders over the last 25 years. Having these guys in a team would win a team a lot of games

Herschelle Gibbs
Adam Gilchrist +
Ricky Ponting
AB DeVilliers
Andrew Symonds 5
Jonty Rhodes
Paul Collingwood 5
Wasim Akram 3
Brad Hogg 4
Brett Lee 3
Glenn McGrath 1

Included McGrath, Lee and Akram because I remember them being really good on the boundaries with really strong arms. Included Hogg because when he was younger he was a gun fieldsman. Not sure if there are other bowlers I've missed. I remember Heath Streak being an excellent outfielder.
 

Mr Miyagi

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trundler

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Great side as usual, Red Hill. De Villiers and Ponting batting together sounds great but ABDV thought Ponting was a dick because when he congratulated him on his 168, Ponting told him to go away or something. Random anecdote

Anyway, here's a statistic to back up the fact that Viv was a matchwinner like no other. He has a MotM every 6 games. Better ratio than anyone else
 

trundler

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Aside from the man of the match thing, Viv has a RPI of 40, ABDV has 44. ABDV comes in at 5 and Viv at 3 or 4 so the not-outs help ABDV a lot. The difference in RPI isn't that big. Both are striking are striking more quickly than their peers considerably, more so for Viv.

Now moving on to stellar performances. How does one compare Viv's 189 and WC final 100 to AB's fastest 100 and fastest 150?
 

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