Shane Bond - Retirement and Tributes

[pasag]

 

[Days of Grace]

Took 4 wickets against Australia in his last ODI, which was a win. Fitting.

But too soon, Shane, too soon.

I'm beginning to wonder what was the point of making the big comeback from the ICL and it lasting for only six months, with the world cup next year FFS? Hugely frustrating, tbh.

 

[Athlai]

Took 4 wickets against Australia in his last ODI, which was a win. Fitting.

But too soon, Shane, too soon.

I'm beginning to wonder what was the point of making the big comeback from the ICL and it lasting for only six months, with the world cup next year FFS? Hugely frustrating, tbh.

He did suffer another injury in that time TBF.

Our awesome ODI attack for the WC is ruined now.

Bond
Mills
Oram
Southee -deathovers
Vettori

Not to be

 

[Bahnz]

Does anyone know if he's going to have another crack at the IPL next year, or whether he's genuinely retired from all forms of the game?

 

[Smudge]

I was wondering that too, but the release does say "all cricket", so I assume he's not going to try for the IPL again.

 

[_Ed_]

This bit is interesting...

"I am very keen at some stage to put something back into the game in New Zealand."

Could we perhaps see him as our bowling coach at some point in the future?

 

[Smudge]

Excellent - he could show our young bowlers how to avoid back problems.

Oh, wait...

 

[popepouri]

Was at the 03 world cup match where he took 6 against Australia. One heck of a spell.
YouTube - Shane Bond Vs Australia WC03

 

[trapol]

Athlai

Its like candy from a baby. It was 4th hand information but yes i knew. Dont ever doubt my knowledge as it will always be greater.

He is our second greatest cricketer ever behind Hadlee..but thats just my opinion

 

[Arrow]

His career is quite tragic. If he had stayed fit he would have been one of the greats imo. Must have been so hard for Nz'ers through his career because great bowlers only come along once every 10-20 years.

 

[thierry henry]

I'm not gonna have a go at the guy, but.....let's just say I would've really appreciated it if, after all the games he's missed and all the work he's put in to get back time and time again, he'd at least waited until the World Cup and retired after it.

This is a massive spanner in the works for the Black Caps WC plans. It also hurts that yet another Black Cap appears to have retired prematurely without ever fulfilling his potential- I realise in Bond's case he's almost 35 and his unfulfilled potential was due to injury, but it's still another one to add to the list that leaves a sour taste in the mouth.

 

[Andre]

I'm not gonna have a go at the guy, but.....let's just say I would've really appreciated it if, after all the games he's missed and all the work he's put in to get back time and time again, he'd at least waited until the World Cup and retired after it.

This is a massive spanner in the works for the Black Caps WC plans. It also hurts that yet another Black Cap appears to have retired prematurely without ever fulfilling his potential- I realise in Bond's case he's almost 35 and his unfulfilled potential was due to injury, but it's still another one to add to the list that leaves a sour taste in the mouth.

You are kidding, right?

That bloke has absolutely done everything he possibly can to get onto the field and try and perform for his country (to the extent his back is now supported with metal) and you are having a go at him for not hanging around long enough?

Tough crowd to please. Reckon he's worked harder than anyone just to simply get back on the field and earnt the right to go out when he felt ready rather than due to another injury...

 

[Days of Grace]

But I'm just miffed that he went through all the **** required to first get back into the team after the ICL debable, then come back from an injury from which he retired from test cricket (a decision which was thought at the time would prolong his ODI career), and to retire ONE year before the world cup, the jewel in the crown.


FFS, if he was going to retire at this time he might as well have played those two tests against Australia. What bull**** was that to retire from Test cricket in an effort to prolong your ODI career by...three months.

No doubt some people will reckon that he stayed around just long enough to make some quid at the IPL.

 

[HeathDavisSpeed]

I reckon he hung around just long enough to make some coin at the IPL.

 

[Andre]

But I'm just miffed that he went through all the **** required to first get back into the team after the ICL debable, then come back from an injury from which he retired from test cricket (a decision which was thought at the time would prolong his ODI career), and to retire ONE year before the world cup, the jewel in the crown.


FFS, if he was going to retire at this time he might as well have played those two tests against Australia. What bull**** was that to retire from Test cricket in an effort to prolong your ODI career by...three months.

No doubt some people will reckon that he stayed around just long enough to make some quid at the IPL.

Fair chance he has retired now in order to ensure he doesn't get injured a month out from the next World Cup and really screw the BC's over.

With his injury record there is no evidence he'd be fit in a years time anyway, and if he has retired from all cricket, I reckon it's because his body has told him it is time.

 

[Top_Cat]

I'm not gonna have a go at the guy, but.....let's just say I would've really appreciated it if, after all the games he's missed and all the work he's put in to get back time and time again, he'd at least waited until the World Cup and retired after it.

Yeah but you don't know how he feels right now. For all we know, he woke up yesterday and felt all too familiar twinges, decided to give it away now rather than going through all the prep for the WC, getting over there and breaking down in the first game. Far worse from a NZ cricket perspective.

EDIT: Or, what Andre said.

 

[Hurricane]

Yeah but you don't know how he feels right now. For all we know, he woke up yesterday and felt all too familiar twinges, decided to give it away now rather than going through all the prep for the WC, getting over there and breaking down in the first game. Far worse from a NZ cricket perspective.

EDIT: Or, what Andre said.

I am not going to join in and say that I wish he hadn't have retired. He needs to do what is best for him. But I am not sure about this logic of how getting injured in the 1st game would have hurt the black caps more than him retiring today. If it was in the middle of the match then totally being down a bowler would hurt the team for that match. But then after the game we would just put in Southee or Butler or whoever to cover for him and fly someone over to join the squad. You can make the argument that retiring now allows someone like Southee to get more consistent game time or for us to give Butler more match practice however.
This argument can be countered by the importance of having the blackcaps team win their ODIs in the next year and gain some momentum going into the world cup.
For me - I don't think it would have hurt the team for him to have played all of this year and then get injured at the world cup.

Anyways sad to see him go - I would like to see a longer interview with him - or read his eventual auto biography to find out more context behind this decision.

 

[Craig]

The full interview;

Shane Bond interview: 'I love Test cricket, but I'm also a realist' | Specials | Cricinfo Magazine | Cricinfo.com

Interesting bit here;



I dunno what he's worried about, tbh. Blokes like Hadlee/Lillee/Marshall had more success when they throttled back and let the ball do the work. The guy gets such exaggerated movement in the air and off the seam and is just a top bowler. I can only see him being more effective if he brought his pace back a bit.

Get the feeling he just loves bowling fast and that's fair enough. ****, if I had that sort of pace, I'd be getting guys on their step-ladders all the time. But I don't really buy that he'd be less successful.

We've got plenty of guys who bowl a bit slower and try and get movement, but at least with Bond's pace it gave the attack something different. FTR I don't disagree with you. I remember reading Hadlee's earlier biographies (published early 80's IIRC) and when he decided to drop his pace he copped a lot of flak for it, but then he took a lot more wickets as a result.

He would have done us a world of good in the next WC.

That's a pretty obvious statement though. He would of done us the world of good in the Tests v Australia, but his body couldn't hold up to it.

 

[Zinzan]

Strangely, I'm not really feeling that gutted this time around, certainly not in the same ball-park as when I heard the news of his retirement from Test cricket following his match-winning 9-fer against Pakistan.

I suppose it's because in the IPL & T20, for the very first time I noticed he seemed to be losing that easy-athletic glide to the bowling crease that was his hall-mark when he was on top of his game, so I can understand why he wanted to pull the plug now.

At least us NZ fans can move on from the constant 'tease' of his possible come-backs from injury

In the final wash, not a bad career at all, may not have reached 100 test wickets, but his bowling strike-rates & averages in all forms of the game remain up there with the very best & no-one can take that away from the lad !

 

[Himannv]

I think its his decision to make and I think he probably didn't just decide overnight. Still he's one of the best quicks New Zealand have ever produced.