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Sehwag vs Sangakkara - as batsman
- Thread starter Avada Kedavra
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Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
God this one's tough.
Sanga is better, but Sehwag would be more valuable, if choosing a team from scratch.
There are less "Sehwags" around than "Sangas" in the world, if anyone gets what I mean. Not only because Sehwag is an opener, but the rate he scores his runs, and his ability to just turn a match.
Sanga is better, but Sehwag would be more valuable, if choosing a team from scratch.
There are less "Sehwags" around than "Sangas" in the world, if anyone gets what I mean. Not only because Sehwag is an opener, but the rate he scores his runs, and his ability to just turn a match.
slowfinger
International Debutant
Love Sanga, just much more mature than Sehwag hence Sanga>Sehwag.
Avada Kedavra
Banned
Went with Sehwag for his better match winning ability.
zaremba
Cricketer Of The Year
This.
zaremba
Cricketer Of The Year
And this.
Umar_Akmal
Banned
Shewag averages 26 in SA,20 in NZ & 39 in Eng. Shewag averages 13.33 against Asif
All-round records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | Cricinfo.com
Shewag maintains his average by scoring big on flat tracks. He is close to be a FTB.Sangakara is miles ahead of shewag.
All-round records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | Cricinfo.com
Shewag maintains his average by scoring big on flat tracks. He is close to be a FTB.Sangakara is miles ahead of shewag.
Umar_Akmal
Banned
This proves shewag mostly scores on flat tracks drawn matches...perfect definition of a FTB
Black_Warrior
Cricketer Of The Year
oh no
*shivers to think what would happen when Sir Alex enters this thread*
*shivers to think what would happen when Sir Alex enters this thread*
Black_Warrior
Cricketer Of The Year
Ok this is a criteria that is often hotly debated not only on this forum but by cricket fans all over the world.
Let me explain this in least common denominator terms to rule out any possibility for misinterpretation or misunderstanding.
Match winning ability has very little to do with whether ultimately you will win the match or not. Yes you can quote me on that.
Let me explain this with an example.
Mohammad Asif I believe is a match winner. What does that mean? He goes an wins every match for Pakistan? No
Considering Pakistan's recent form, I would hardly be surprised if stats showed he has featured in more defeats than wins.
What I mean is, he has the ability to place his team in a position of command and control of the match from where they have a very very good chance of winning the match.
This is an example. 2nd Test: Australia v Pakistan at Sydney, Jan 3-6, 2010 | Cricket Scorecard | Cricinfo.com
He set up the match for Pakistan with excellent seam bowling. He dismantled the mighty Australian top order and helped Pakistan bundle them out for 127.
That is match winning ability.
Were Pakistan in a commanding position from there? Yes
Were Pakistan in complete control of that match from there? Yes
Could Pakistan have won the match from there? Yes.
Did Pakistan win the match? No.
Does that take anything away from Asif's stupendous effort? No
Is he still a match winner? Yes.
It is often beyond the ability of one player to win a test mach completely on his own. Actually, correct that, it is impossible for one player to win a test match completely on his own.
When I say Sehwag has match winning ability, I mean he has the ability to set up a test match for India, place them in a position of command and control. Whether they ultimately go on to win that match is irrelevant. If they do, kudos to Sehwag and the team. If they dont, shame on the rest of the 10 players.
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Shri
Mr. Glass
Same could apply for Sanga. I don't necessarily see one as being better than the other.
Black_Warrior
Cricketer Of The Year
Was that directed at me? I did not even mention Sangakkara. The reason I picked Sehwag is for other reasons not his match winning ability. Both Sehwag and Sangakkara are match winners. Never doubted that.
My post was in response to an argument brought forward that only 6 out of Sehwag's 21 centuries resulted in wins hence he is not a match winner.
weldone
Hall of Fame Member
Good post, there.
The same applies for other players. Michael Slater has featured in more wins for Australia than Brian Lara has for West Indies. Hence, Slater's centuries often coincided with win for his country than Lara's. But concluding from there that Slater is a better match-winner than Lara would be an amusing idea. That's what I call an inappropriate use of stats. Stats are good only when you have the expertise (or, should I say common sense?) to understand its meaning.
I liked your post- expressed the idea in a nice way.