If punter had opened he would have averaged 3.4 like he did in first tour in 2001.
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Round table revisited, Lara the best batsmen of modern era
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wfdu_ben91
International 12th Man
Not really, because opening the batting in the subcontient is easier then batting in the middle-order. Facing the pace bowlers is easier then facing the spinners, where Ponting would get a good 20 odd overs to face the pacers in dead conditions. Just ask a pace bowler who has toured in India:
"I played against Sachin Tendulkar in India and England, but over there [in India] you had no chance. The wickets were so placid it was ridiculous." - Devon Malcolm
Never heard a pace bowler say anything like that about Australian pitches, tbh.
This is why hayden averages only 31 in the next 2 tour when he faced both kumble and Harbhajan
Devon malcolm had a great success against 17 years old tendulkar in England
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wfdu_ben91
International 12th Man
Don't you get it? 30-35 is the score that the batsman are on when the spinners come on.This is why hayden averages only 31 in the next 2 tour when he faced both kumble and Harbhajan
Oh really, i remember sehwag scored 42 runs of 21 balls he faced of steyn and Morkel in India. This was only in 6th over.
So you agree that both punter and hayden are mediocre player of spin bowling.
Lara had so less not outs because of same reason sehwag has so less not out in comparison to hayden. May be because he was more aggresive than sachin and ponting.
Shri
Mr. Glass
You do know Steyn's average on said placid pitches of India? Didn't really want to post that. Won't post anything in regards to this discussion in this thread again.
wfdu_ben91
International 12th Man
Hayden averages 47 in Sri Lanka and Ponting averages 50 in Sri Lanka against the leading wicket taker of alltime, who is a spin bowler. Surely you must be able to comprehend this?
Hayden and punter scored runs of fast bowling of SL and got out as soon as they faced spinners.
wfdu_ben91
International 12th Man
No they didn't.
bagapath
International Captain
ikki. it could be something to do with the fact that he played for a mediocre team for most of his career. in most of the games featuring him, probably, west indies didn't bat well enough in the first innings for them to declare with lara still at the crease or didnt chase small targets in second innings/or started second innings late enough on the fifth day to force a draw while he was still not out. he, i presume, had to bat every time till he got out whether to save his team from defeat or take them closer to victory on very rare occasions. without checking any record books i already know there is a 400 and a 153 in his six unbeaten innings - that is one third of his overall career. amazing how rarely he saved his wicket in such a long and glittering career.
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Spark
Global Moderator
This surely must be a joke gone horribly wrong.
Sir Alex
Banned
What is Steyn's average in India and in the subcontinent? I think it's in the lower 20s
Sir Alex
Banned
The contention that ponting dominated spinners in Sri lanka in favorable conditions is a bit of a myth.
Ponting averaged 50 against lanka in lanka.
Break it down to 2 series ; in 99 he averaged 80 odd and in 04 33.
It is quite obvious that murali was not the finished product in 99 as in 04. But let's pass on that.
In 99, he scored all his runs at Kandy and colombo.
Now, Kandy was not exactly a spin den, not atleast in that match. If you notice, the Sri lankan pace duo of vaas and zoysa managed to take 9 out of the total 17 wickets that sri lankan bowlers took more than 50 per cent, despite having only sent in 54 overs out of total 127 overs bowled by them.
In colombo, it was a rain hit match from the beginning, australia batted first and ponting helped himself to a 100 , out of the total 14 wickets that fell in that match, 8 went to pace bowlers as well.
However regardless of this, the Kandy 96 and 51 were masterclass innings, as they came when australia were in deep ****, in the first innings they were at one point 60-7 thanks to some inspired bowling by vaas and zoysa. Despite the fact that australia lost that test, it must rank as one of his best away test innings.
Ponting averaged 50 against lanka in lanka.
Break it down to 2 series ; in 99 he averaged 80 odd and in 04 33.
It is quite obvious that murali was not the finished product in 99 as in 04. But let's pass on that.
In 99, he scored all his runs at Kandy and colombo.
Now, Kandy was not exactly a spin den, not atleast in that match. If you notice, the Sri lankan pace duo of vaas and zoysa managed to take 9 out of the total 17 wickets that sri lankan bowlers took more than 50 per cent, despite having only sent in 54 overs out of total 127 overs bowled by them.
In colombo, it was a rain hit match from the beginning, australia batted first and ponting helped himself to a 100 , out of the total 14 wickets that fell in that match, 8 went to pace bowlers as well.
However regardless of this, the Kandy 96 and 51 were masterclass innings, as they came when australia were in deep ****, in the first innings they were at one point 60-7 thanks to some inspired bowling by vaas and zoysa. Despite the fact that australia lost that test, it must rank as one of his best away test innings.
Maximus0723
State Regular
Lara didn't exactly dominate spinners. He struggled against flatter spinners--Kumble, Vettori, Bhajji.
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SaeedAnwar
U19 Debutant
^ he raped Bhaji, what are you talking about?
Sir Alex
Banned
Pics or stfu
I don't think lara would be proud of this record
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