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Road to the 2017-18 Ashes in Australia

Daemon

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Could do a similar one for Australia but cbf. My point is, would you rather have one of those "leaders men would follow into battle" or one of best batsman your country has ever produced?
 

Bijed

International Regular
As much as Smith is an excellent batsmen and good person ,his tendency of late to tell the media his feelings only puts more pressure on himself. If he feels that his body language is poor, why not work on it behind the scenes instead of letting the world know? this is a sign of weakness ..if he feels that Peter Neville is too quite behind the stumps why not let him know personally ,his public comments may hinder Neville's performance instead of improving it but it also affects the whole team negatively. This sort behaviour is not good for AUS cricket and it does seem that team culture is slowly being eroded. The AUS legends of the past had the right to chirp because they had the skill to back up their words and always showed it. What is the use of being a loud mouth when you are utter useless on the field. 3 or 4 years ago When David Warner decided to focus more on his technique instead doing more talking we saw him achieve great things with the bat and find more consistency in his game, so now when he has the odd word he has earned the right to talk....and then you compare that to Mathew Wade who only talks **** behind the stumps but has done nothing of significance in test cricket. Steve Smith must control his emotions and keep it to himself ,and maybe try to emulate iconic captains like Steve Waugh or Graeme Smith who weren't the greatest of batsmen but were the type of leaders men would follow into battle, even if it were to their sure deaths.
Disagree tbh. His ineptitude behind the stumps is significant almost to the point of legend
 

Adders

Cricketer Of The Year
Is that confirmed?

Cricinfo only reporting his tour is in doubt and a decision will be made in a couple of days.
 

Adders

Cricketer Of The Year
Jeez you gotta feel a bit sorry for this bloke. He must ****ing hate coming to Australia.

2010/11 - gets dropped after 2 tests whilst being the highest wicket take thus far in the series and essentially misses out on arguably England's greatest victory in modern times.

2013/14 - gets sent home for being in such poor form in the nets he's considered "unpickable"

2017/18 - Potentially going home again for an injury picked up in a warm up game.


FMD, that is a seriously rough ride for 3 consecutive tours to the same country.
 

theegyptian

International Vice-Captain
One of Helm, T Curran or Plunkett the likely replacements according to reports.

Helm is a no from me. Not consistent enough yet, isn't a first team choice at Middlesex when everyone available. Has the height(bounce) and sporadic pace that may attract selectors.
Plunkett has his supporters but he's transitioned more to a white ball cricketer in recent years. Only played 2 champ games for Yorkshire this year, 8 last year but averaged 60. Not sure he is match fit these days for 4/5 day cricket.
TCurran would be my pick of these 3. Pretty relentless hitting the top of offstump. Bowled on flat wickets at the oval. Played lots of fc cricket over last few years so body hardened. Isn't a great option though, not quick, another rarmer, similar qualites to woakes, average figures over last couple of fc seasons.

Apparently Wood still deemed unfit.

Gleeson gets my vote from outside the group. Pace and in form.


Fwiw if they want someone who is out in Aus already playing to cover, Olly Stone is playing in WA grade. Has the quality, but not the game time in recent time.
 
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S.Kennedy

International Vice-Captain
T Curran. So we now have a Curran and we have an Overton!

I would have probably picked Plunkett but who cares at this stage, we being already doomed.
 

Burgey

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England’s ****ed up climate hurts them so badly when they cop injuries on their winter tours. At least in other countries players can go outdoors and practice or play in winter comps to stay fit without a game being called off for bad light at 1pm.
 

Adders

Cricketer Of The Year
Hahaha gtfo.......how can an Australian have anything to say to us about injuries to fast bowlers, climate or otherwise!!

It's been 6 years you've been waiting to get your prefered bowling attack on the park ffs.
 

oblongballs

U19 Debutant
Why is Curran picked over international Plunkett (England's second best ODI bowler) and THE young bowler in county cricket in Porter?

The latter in particular is wiser, smarter and has the numbers. The old county mindset and biases must change and Essex should no longer be looked down upon when compared to some of the county powerhouses.

Well, first England lost Stokes which was out of their control, to make it worse they lost Ali, somewhat in their control and now they have started to dig their own graves.

Bollocks
 

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