Quickest bowlers of all-time by nation

[Victor Ian]

Can someone explain this back foot no ball? I have no understanding of how it worked, how it made a difference and can not find any good explanations on mr google.

 

[cnerd123]

Can someone explain this back foot no ball? I have no understanding of how it worked, how it made a difference and can not find any good explanations on mr google.

The current rule is that your front foot should land behind the popping crease. Old rules use to be that your backfoot had to land behind the popping crease instead.

Until 1963, a No ball was called when the bowler's back foot landed over the bowling crease (which is why the bowling crease was so called), exactly as in 1774. But it was felt that the tallest fast bowlers, able to bowl legally with their front foot well over the popping crease, were gaining too great an advantage. Bowlers also became skilled in dragging their back foot. The change in the Law led to an increase in No balls: in the 1962-63 series between Australia and England there were 5 No balls; in the series between the two teams three years later there were 25.

Dragging the backfoot would mean landing on the backfoot, then sliding forward with it, before plonking down your front foot and delivering the ball.

Sounds like it would make quite a big difference tbh. Shorten the distance the ball travels by a few yards.

 

[vcs]

I'm trying to imagine how someone would do the dragging thing, and failing miserably.

 

[Victor Ian]

this will show you the dragging - funny how I have been searching for this for over a year and only today when I pose a question here, do I find anything.

edit how about I post the link http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-05/no-ball-rule-'hurting-australia's-pace-bowlers'/8092284

 

[Adders]

this will show you the dragging - funny how I have been searching for this for over a year and only today when I pose a question here, do I find anything.

edit how about I post the link How a 50-year-old rule change is hurting Australia's pace bowlers - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Interesting, and thanks for asking the question as I was in the same boat as you not really knowing what a back foot no ball was when people used to talk about it.

One question I have from that article though is.........how come this rule change is only destroying Australian bowlers with injury? Does the rule not apply to other nations bowlers??

A rule change dating back more than 50 years is contributing to the spate of injuries tearing through Australia's pace bowling stocks, according to one expert who is on a mission to change things.

 

[vcs]

Also I'd have thought the dragging thing would have more potential to cause injuries. I'm no biomechanics expert though.

 

[Daemon]

I don't get it, they can still drag all they like, just pull your run up back a bit and start getting used to it?

 

[Burgey]

If you want to see footage of dragging, watch anything of Geoff Lawson. Was a massive back foot dragger

 

[Zinzan]

If you want to see footage of dragging, watch anything of Geoff Lawson. Was a massive back foot dragger

Poor mans Alderman, with an extra yard of pace.

 

[Flametree]

The current rule is that your front foot should land behind the popping crease. Old rules use to be that your backfoot had to land behind the popping crease instead.
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I thought the back foot had to land behind the crease the wicket is on, whatever that's called. So for most bowlers there was not much difference to today as their front foot would have been landing around the batting crease. But the draggers could get another half yard at least

 

[Daemon]

I thought the back foot had to land behind the crease the wicket is on, whatever that's called. So for most bowlers there was not much difference to today as their front foot would have been landing around the batting crease. But the draggers could get another half yard at least

Yeah, ***** has mixed up bowling and popping crease there. Filthy casual.

 

[Adders]

For the benefit of *****............and everyone else that wasn't 100% on this (such as me)

 

[Burgey]

Poor mans Alderman, with an extra yard of pace.

Was better than Alderman everywhere but England and Perth.

 

[Victor Ian]

One of my first cricket memories is watching a game on tv and Lawson was bowling. I asked my brother if he was any good. "Yeah, he's the best bowler in the world" he told me, so I believed him and was a huge Lawson fan ever since.

 

[Shri]

He lacked control, but I doubt there have been too many quicker English bowlers than big Devon Malcolm.

David Lawrence was seriously quick too, wasn't he?

 

[cnerd123]

I didn't mix up bowling and popping crease. I speed read through wikipedia and assumed I understood the difference in rules when I posted it here when I clearly missed that subtle difference.

I'm a qualified umpired I know the difference plz.

 

[cnerd123]

I don't get it, they can still drag all they like, just pull your run up back a bit and start getting used to it?

They can but your front foot still has to land behind the popping crease, meaning the distance between ball being released and reaching the batsman is constant.

In the old rules it seems you would land your backfoot behind the _bowling_ crease, then drag it forward, and then plonk your front foot down well ahead of the popping crease to shorten the distance. And if you were taller, you get more benefit from it.

Or maybe I'm wrong again IDK

 

[indiaholic]

Nah you have got it now. Glad we are helping improve the umpires of the world.

 

[Daemon]

I didn't mix up bowling and popping crease. I speed read through wikipedia and assumed I understood the difference in rules when I posted it here when I clearly missed that subtle difference.

I'm a qualified umpired I know the difference plz.

ok

 

[marc71178]

I didn't mix up bowling and popping crease. I speed read through wikipedia and assumed I understood the difference in rules when I posted it here when I clearly missed that subtle difference.

I'm a qualified umpired I know the difference plz.

Dharmasena's a qualified umpire as well so that's hardly a glowing reference.