subshakerz
International Coach
Looking again at Malcolm Marshall's peak, I don't think we appreciate how special it is to average 6 wickets a test while being part of an attack that has Joel Garner, Michael Holding and Courtney Walsh. Amazing.
Looking again at Malcolm Marshall's peak, I don't think we appreciate how special it is to average 6 wickets a test while being part of an attack that has Joel Garner, Michael Holding and Courtney Walsh. Amazing.
T20 averages are so meaningless TV broadcasts don't even bother to show themWhat I had in my mind while making the thread, currently Kohli's all format average is about 17 better than the nearest competitors, some of the peaks mentioned like Ponting/Sachin whilst being pretty good performances aren't applicable because there were other batsman averaging just 3-4 runs below these guys.
Well it's just a metric, I think Kohli will probably be significantly ahead of most people even if you used something else to measure T20 performance. Besides I don't think they are meaningless for the top 3-4, maybe below that.T20 averages are so meaningless TV broadcasts don't even bother to show them
The only metric that matters is testsWell it's just a metric, I think Kohli will probably be significantly ahead of most people even if you used something else to measure T20 performance. Besides I don't think they are meaningless for the top 3-4, maybe below that.
I am sure Australia would be happy to hear that their 5 world cups mean absolute zilch.The only metric that matters is tests
Yeah I'd say that's pretty likely.I think Kohli has a good chance of finishing with a legacy like that of Kohli when it comes to ridiculous excellence
I would bet that most cricket fans don't even remember the result of our last T20 series.Well it's just a metric, I think Kohli will probably be significantly ahead of most people even if you used something else to measure T20 performance. Besides I don't think they are meaningless for the top 3-4, maybe below that.
96 trillion pennies is worth more than one gram of gold, therefore gold > pennies. Because logic.Nope, it goes, 1 test win against Bangladesh = 30,000 ODI world cups = 96 trillion T20 world cups.
The real question is if 96 trillion pennies are worth more than 1 test win.96 trillion pennies is worth more than one gram of gold, therefore gold > pennies. Because logic.
Your argument about Kohli's awesomeness in multiple formats is valid. Ignore arguments that want to diminish shorter formats. Not going to go anywhere.The real question is if 96 trillion pennies are worth more than 1 test win.
Nah,I guessed Pontingedited. But did you guess who I meant?
I don't think they're that meaningless though. No real point in being a batsman with a SR of 180 or something if you don't typically hang around enough for it to really count. I know it's a skewed example to suit my argument, but would you rather have a guy who strikes at 135 with an average of 35, or a guy who strikes at 145 with an average of 10? Agree that SRs are generally far more important though (and tbf if you're talking bowlers who can slog a bit, I guess you shouldn't be fretting too much over whether they play long (by T20 standards) innings)T20 averages are so meaningless TV broadcasts don't even bother to show them
***** agreesNope, it goes, 1 test win against Bangladesh = 30,000 ODI world cups = 96 trillion T20 world cups.
Yeah, and since srbhkshk is essentially asking about a point of statistical trivia anyway (and I don't mean that to diminish his question), seems a bit off to criticise the question on the basis of how much people personally value the formats against each other.Your argument about Kohli's awesomeness in multiple formats is valid. Ignore arguments that want to diminish shorter formats. Not going to go anywhere.
God mode Clarke made good bowlers look village like very few have ever done. Just made it look ridiculously easy.Does it count as a peak if that's just his level?
Relative to how he was outside of his peak, Clarke was ridiculous. Looked one of the most dominant batsmen in modern memory for two or three years, then looked like an octogenarian who had forgotten how to play the bouncer after that.