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*Official* Tennis Thread
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OverratedSanity
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Thought it was a very good final. Not a bad showing from Cilic at all.
vic_orthdox
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Rosewall I'd imagine.
vcs
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Federer is very close to reclaiming the No. 1 spot as well. Think he'll get it briefly if Nadal misses Acapulco and Federer turns up in Dubai, though it may not last long given he has to defend IW/Miami and he'll probably pull out of the clay season.
Another astonishing achievement, given his age and the fact that he's played so sparingly. Haven't checked it, but I'm expecting he'd be the oldest World No. 1 by some distance in the past 30-40 years since they've had the rankings.
Another astonishing achievement, given his age and the fact that he's played so sparingly. Haven't checked it, but I'm expecting he'd be the oldest World No. 1 by some distance in the past 30-40 years since they've had the rankings.
vogue
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Yeah. Not that difficult really . Like seeing footage of him play
Bahnz
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I love Federer, but this fell into his lap a little bit with the injuries and upsets along the way (not to mention the growing murmurings of favouritism from the organisers). Doubt he'll remember it as his favourite grand slam win, but when you've got 19 others to choose from that was always going to be a stretch. Seriously, given how well he's aging, and how his major rivals are coming apart at the seams, it wouldn't be ridiculous for him to win another 3 or 4 before he finally hangs up his racket.
Anil
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yeah i always said federer is significantly underrated as a clay courter because he played against nadal on the surface during his prime years...could've should've and all that but in an alternative nadal-less universe, i can see him winning at least 5-6 french opens easily...i actually think he is better than most clay-courters who have won more clay titles...people like kuerten, muster, bruguera, lendl, wilander etc...nadal would have swatted them around even more easily than he did federer...
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3 is a fairer number IMO, if Nadal hadn't been around, Djokovic would have risen to challenge him a bit earlier and his game is far more suited to clay than Federer's (though Fed is damn good himself).
I loved Kuerten BTW, not convinced Federer is a better clay-courter than him, he beat Federer in the French Open in 2004 when Kuerten was past it. Federer started delivering consistent quality performances on clay only after 2005.
Agree that all those guys would have struggled to win anything on clay with Nadal around.
I loved Kuerten BTW, not convinced Federer is a better clay-courter than him, he beat Federer in the French Open in 2004 when Kuerten was past it. Federer started delivering consistent quality performances on clay only after 2005.
Agree that all those guys would have struggled to win anything on clay with Nadal around.
Anil
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i think comparing them at their respective peaks he is/was as good or better than djokovic...for example djokovic in one of his most dominant seasons lost to federer in the semis of the french in the best match of that year...as for kuerten, the loss at rolland garros was before federer's peak and after guga's...experience won...i don't read much into that...federer lost 4 finals and 1 semi against nadal, in a nadal-less universe he would have won the titles all those years...not to mention so many finals lost in other clay tournaments all to nadal...he would have won at least a couple of italian opens if not for nadal, the only big tournament he hasn't won in his career...outside of nadal, i would count borg and maybe guillermo vilas as a greater clay courter but the rest is all arguable at best...
the bolded part above is the key point...nadal is inarguably the greatest clay courter of all time, there is plenty of daylight between him and the next best player on the surface, borg...he has and would have skewed any other clay great's career significantly, it's just a fact that federer was directly in the line of fire and impacted the most...and it has colored people's opinions of him in that regard...i am just calling that out, that's all...ultimately it's all speculation but i have seen federer's best on clay and just feel he can take on and beat most opponents at their respective best, across eras...
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