Adamc
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Wally Hammond - 227 and 336* v NZ,1933
Hashim Amla - 253*, 114 and 123* v India, 2010
Both completed series.
Edit: that's 563 and 490 for the lazy.
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*Official* Second Test at the Adelaide Oval
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Hashim Amla - 253*, 114 and 123* v India, 2010
Both completed series.
Edit: that's 563 and 490 for the lazy.
It's gettable!
Ruckus
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Well it was boring enough watching it on tv, so I pity you having to follow it on cricinfo...
As much as there is a permanent aversion to doing this for England players, people might have to start including him as a potential "all-time great". He's certainly young enough to break every longevity linked record in the book (he's played about the same number of tests as had Tendulkar at the same age, in five years fewer) and a step shift in his average will make that a serious possibility, if England continue to play the same volume of test cricket throughout his career.
Ruckus
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nah, I really doubt he will become an all-time great. There are so many players who could be listed as 'potential all-time greats' but have never actually reached that status. I think Cook will probably continue to average around 45 for the rest of his career. You have to take his form here with a grain of salt as well, because he is clearly in a peak at the moment and has had the benefit of playing on incredibly flat pitches where others around him have also scored centuries. Not to take anything away from him though, it still takes a big effort to score like he has (managed to do what Australia's batsmen couldn't).
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Speak for yourself, i thought it was a brilliant days play.
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He will certainly break all English batting records but whether he becomes an all time great is open for too much debate at present.He could easily keep his average up in the high 40's as there are so few decent bowlers around at present but is he good enough to break into the 50's and stay there with his technique?
Ruckus
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Yeah probably helps being on the winning side!
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Well you had enough of it over the years, used to enjoy watching Mark Waugh bat though even if it was painful to watch at times.
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If there was a clear successor then I don't think there would be any problems in dropping Ponting, or him retiring. Clarke is the vc, but he isn't exactly in the greatest form and his back injury would be a concern, because he could miss matches with the injury.
Ruckus
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Winning or not though, I don't really like to watch anyone bat when there is literally no contest between bat and ball. A century is so much sweeter when the batsmen has to fight for it.
To be fair, all my post proposed that he be considered a potential all-time great! The small number apparently playing in the Ashes being used my many as an excuse to rubbish this series.
As for the more ambitious proposition - well it depends on how you define all-time great. But somebody who ended up as an all-time leading run scorer would have a valid claim. Which for Cook would possibly only require an average in the mid-high forties if he played for long enough (and if somebody can persuade Tendulkar to set a fixed target!
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Furball
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How much of that is the pitch and how much the bowlers though?
I went to sleep when Cook tonned up and England's lead was about 20, but in the Kp/Cook partnership up until that point, I can't remember them remotely looking in any trouble. No play and misses, no close lbw shouts, no edges not carrying/flying through gaps. Ok, the pitch is a road, so I'm not expecting the bowlers to create a massive amount, but there was literally nothing for either batsman to be alarmed at.
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I went to sleep when Cook tonned up and England's lead was about 20, but in the Kp/Cook partnership up until that point, I can't remember them remotely looking in any trouble. No play and misses, no close lbw shouts, no edges not carrying/flying through gaps. Ok, the pitch is a road, so I'm not expecting the bowlers to create a massive amount, but there was literally nothing for either batsman to be alarmed at.
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Ruckus
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true, but that is incredibly unlikely given the state of the pitch, the amount of batting to come, the poor form of our bowlers and the fact that we have unreliable batsmen that would have to produce a massive second innings total on a deteriorating day 4/5 pitch in conditions likely to be worse than at the Gabba.
Realism FTW
