thierry henry
International Coach
Elgar just looked completely crap. This doesn't mean he's not better than all of the NZ batsmen or that he won't be able to turn his talent for not getting out into consistent test runs, but he still looked crap.
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Neil Pickup
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Names please...
Prince EWS
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James Franklin.
Prince EWS
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On a more serious note, Gooch.
Neil Pickup
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He's the only one who'd fit the "great" box without much dispute. Saeed Anwar is the next cab along the rank, with Marvan Atapattu a distant third... even if we generously include him, it's not quite "many".
ohnoitsyou
International Regular
"106.3
Patel to Elgar, no run, hmmm, that wasn't very convincing, the ball was tossed up around leg stump, Elgar launched into a slog-sweep, missed entirely, there was just a flick of pad through to the keeper - and it wasn't far from hitting leg, either
113.2
Patel to Elgar, no run, ooh, a half-chance there, as Elgar misjudges the length, tries a pre-meditated sweep but realises he's not to the pitch, pulling out late and the ball pops off the edge wide of slip
113.6
Patel to Elgar, no run, Patel's arm ball nearly does for Elgar this time, as he goes back and chops hastily away from in front of his stumps, almost surprised by it going straight on "
Against one of the poorer spinners in international cricket in horrible form
wellAlbidarned
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benchmark00
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Going to go out on a limb and say that talk of New Zealand being in the top three teams in test cricket in a few years time was premature.
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Haha, just a smidge.
ohnoitsyou
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I'm confident that the third golden age of the Black Caps is only 3-4 years away. Our bowlers will have experience and our Batting will be the strongest since the Flemming era.
wellAlbidarned
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Definitely in the top 3 for optimism.
Australia's probably got it's strongest stock of young quicks since the 70's imo.
Steyn, Philander and Morkel will still be around.
Pakistan has a decent attack, Finn and Broad will still be around.
Can't see their attack being top 3, let alone their entire side.
NZTailender
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Calling the ******** kid a ******. We all know it, you don't look any better pointing out the obvious.
I watched replays today. Elgar is just weird. I mean, we point to guys like Katich, Collingwood, Chanderpaul etc who make success out of different, awkward type techniques (though I love(d) watching all 3 of those guys bat), Elgar just look like a completely different kettle of fish. I swear the ball didn't go where he was intending for a lot olf his shots, and he even jumped backwards, both feet off the ground for a shot. Streaky as. Against a better, more refined and consistent bowling attack he'd struggle. If he can turn his weird shot style into an unorthodox success, then fairplay to him. I just didn't see anything from him that puts him in the same class as the six above him, nor will he reach those dizzying heights.
Yeah, who said that originally? Even with all our bowlers, batsmen and having a unified team and management system, we'd probably attain 4th spot, and be able to compete more with the top 3 than we do now, but that call is over-optimistic.
ohnoitsyou
International Regular
It was suggested by quite a few people in the what will the teams be ranked in 5 years, somehow its changed to 3 years over here
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jcas0167
International Debutant
I realise this was a rhetorical question
but anyway here are their averages after removing those teams. Overall average is in brackets:McCullum 30.82 (35.33)
Guptill 24.72 (30.29)
Williamson 29.03 (30.82)
Brownlie 32.46 (32.93)
Flynn 22.8 (26.61)
Watling 19.92 (29.78)
Also, unavailable for this test series:
Taylor 40.32 (42.57)
Ryder 37.93 (40.93)
Vettori 24.53 (30.10)
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kykweer.proteas
International Debutant
Now you kiwis know how we felt after the tri nations last year lol....
And tbf, the way steyn bowled yesterday he would have made most teams look ordinary, I rate if he starts today with the same rhythm the game won't see a fourth day.
And tbf, the way steyn bowled yesterday he would have made most teams look ordinary, I rate if he starts today with the same rhythm the game won't see a fourth day.
Zinzan
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At least the Springboks always compete with the All Blacks, even if NZ have won more head-to-head matches.