*Official* New Zealand in Australia 2019/20

[Moss]

Credit where due, good day's play for NZ. Latham did well to come out and focus for a whole session after a long time out in the field captaining, seems to wear responsibility well enough . Definite positive from NZ leadership perspective. For once Australia made to work, and might feel a tad annoyed about not kicking on to 500 plus in any of the tests so far after a strong foundation, though it's been irrelevant in the larger scheme of things.

 

[Shady Slim]

so do the kiwis like, pathologically need to be underestimated before they can do well or what ffs, because that was a fine day for them tbqh

 

[Daemon]

Highest opening partnership for NZ in Australia since Richardson and Vincent stitched together 77 in 2001.

 

[morgieb]

Good day for New Zealand, these two dug in rather well. Still a long way to go and I think it might be too hard to force a result given their impacted batting lineup, but a much better display than what we saw in the first two Tests.

 

[Hicheal Michael]

Highest opening partnership for NZ in Australia since Richardson and Vincent stitched together 77 in 2001.

What interesting post career paths those two have embarked on.

 

[Spark]

Isn't Vincent the one with, uh, a few screws loose?

 

[Grasshopper]

Credit where due, good day's play for NZ. Latham did well to come out and focus for a whole session after a long time out in the field captaining, seems to wear responsibility well enough . Definite positive from NZ leadership perspective.

Yeah, and I was impressed that he stationed himself at short square leg when our spinners were bowling, rather than pull rank on one of the newbies.

 

[Bahnz]

Gritty stuff from the Toms. Decent start, but I get the feeling with this batting lineup and the state of the pitch that wickets could fall in a rush at any time. Still, can't complain about the day.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Highest opening partnership for NZ in Australia since Richardson and Vincent stitched together 77 in 2001.

Our openers (especially in the 21st century) have really struggled. We've only ever reached the 100 mark (exactly) once.

Top 4s with Wright, Edgar, Reid no 2, M Crowe or Wright, Horne no 1?? (weak option), Jones, M Crowe did well in Aussie conditions.

Partnership records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPNcricinfo.com

 

[NZTailender]

Isn't Vincent the one with, uh, a few screws loose?

If you've heard Richardson on his conservative Hosking wannabe rants you'd say Vincent is the saner one

 

[GoodAreasShane]

Isn't Vincent the one with, uh, a few screws loose?

Nah more shady than insane. He hasn't gone the full Mark Vermuelen, at least as far as I know

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

I thought he had pretty bad depression at one point

 

[_Ed_]

I thought he had pretty bad depression at one point

For sure. I'd describe him as naive (to say the very least) and impressionable, then later racked by guilt - pretty sad, really. But that's not to excuse his actions.

 

[Grasshopper]

If you've heard Richardson on his conservative Hosking wannabe rants you'd say Vincent is the saner one

Rigor's one of the main reasons I stopped watching terrestrial telly.

 

[Moss]

I recall Vincent scoring a double hundred in the middle order vs SL (during an injury ravaged summer) and almost immediately being told by coach Bracewell that he wouldn't fit into the lineup if he wasn't willing to open. Around the same time was encouraged to become a slogger at the top of the order in ODIs. All went south after that.

 

[NZTailender]

I recall Vincent scoring a double hundred in the middle order vs SL (during an injury ravaged summer) and almost immediately being told by coach Bracewell that he wouldn't fit into the lineup if he wasn't willing to open. Around the same time was encouraged to become a slogger at the top of the order in ODIs. All went south after that.

He was abysmally treated by the management at that time. He played just about every position in the lineup from 1-6. he was best at 3 or 4, really.

 

[jcas0167]

Yeah, Vincent, like Sinclair, was unlucky in that they were competing with the established senior players who were never going to be dropped (Fleming, Styris, Astle, McMillan).

Vincent did have an excellent ODI series in Australia in 06/07, but never got another extended run in tests. I was hoping they would recall him in 09/10 after his ICL stint. Instead they went with Peter Ingram..

 

[Gnske]

Yeah, and I was impressed that he stationed himself at short square leg when our spinners were bowling, rather than pull rank on one of the newbies.

No that's weak. He isn't willing to blood his lads, elite brutality is needed.

 

[thierry henry]

I recall Vincent scoring a double hundred in the middle order vs SL (during an injury ravaged summer) and almost immediately being told by coach Bracewell that he wouldn't fit into the lineup if he wasn't willing to open. Around the same time was encouraged to become a slogger at the top of the order in ODIs. All went south after that.

Can’t believe this was just allowed to let slide to feed a false narrative

Vincent was a TERRIBLE ODI player UNTIL he got the opportunity to be a slogging opener

 

[Flem274*]

i remember the good old days of th despising vettori and vincent