**Official** India v Pakistan

[deeps]

Lol is right. These guys are so blinded by Tendulkar that they attribute all these non-existent qualities to him. Wisden has it right on Tendlukar - all along. Can you compare Steve Waugh and Tendulkar - not even close. Tendulkar was a MISERABLE failure as a captain and has been non-existent in real pressure situations. And when the time came the Suatralian Selectors moved on beyond Waugh. Wish the Indian Selectors had the courgae, wisdom and IQ to do the same. NOT A CHANCE.

actually, if yo've read my posts around the forum, you will find that i agree with you in terms of his batting. In pressure situations, he goes missing with the bat. But he is a more than adequate quality bowler.

If you actually read my post, you would see me referring to his BOWLING, and not his batting

and if yo'ur going to say that "an all rounder needs to be able to bat" well the prerequisite for an all rounder is USUALLY an avg of 30+, and tendulkar meets it.

He is a good batsman, but he will not help you in a pressure situation. STill an all rounder none the less

 

[JustTool]

actually you'll find that tendulkar gets more spin that most other spinners in the world.

If he bowled more often he would be easily world class

you need to get ur head right.

He has certainly been batting mor eoften and look what happened....you got to be crazy thinking that Tendulkar can become a bowler - in his declining twilight years......

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

He has certainly been batting mor eoften and look what happened

How is that related to his bowling??

 

[deeps]

He has certainly been batting mor eoften and look what happened....you got to be crazy thinking that Tendulkar can become a bowler - in his declining twilight years......

well up till that post, i had some respect for your opinion on tendulkar... but now it's obvious that you'r just blatantly biased against him. Now you'r just another one of those tools that aren't worth replying to.

cya

 

[honestbharani]

India are still a good test side...... And I think, they can hang on to the no.3 spot in the test ratings but in ODIs, some serious consideration should be given to this idea of playing with 5 bowlers....... India have stagnated in ODIs since the 2003 WC and a few fresh legs won't be a bad idea to get us back into the groove.

 

[marc71178]

i said that tendulkar is a world class all rounder

And that is what I questioned.

His bowling is far from all rounder quality, and it would only increase the pressure on him, which is not good for him.

 

[marc71178]

actually you'll find that tendulkar gets more spin that most other spinners in the world.

If he bowled more often he would be easily world class

You have a very wide definition of World Class in that case.

It would mean just about every side in the world has a world class spinner, when in reality there's only a handful of these in the world.

 

[deeps]

And that is what I questioned.

His bowling is far from all rounder quality, and it would only increase the pressure on him, which is not good for him.

ok well most people consider jacques kallis to be a world class all rounder

in their last 100 matches one day matches of course, coz that's what i was referring to before.


Kallis averages 34.30 with the ball, and tendulkar averages 37.30

Tendulkar has bowled in that time, 348.5 overs in comparison to 660.5 off kallis. which is almost twice as many overs

Tendulkar has exactly 50 wickets in that time, where kallis has 95... which shows the similarity in their strike rates...which is proven by the statistics
SR Kallis = 41.7
SR Tendulkar = 41.8

Kallis has two 4 wicket hauls and one 5 wicket haul in that time, as compared to tendulkars one of each.

Kallis' best bowling = 5/41
Tendulkar = 5/50

is there really that much of a difference?

 

[nehrafan]

I thought the toss played a vital role in the outcome of the last match!

But anyway, Pak were a bit better team than India in Oneday series, and i guess they deserved to be the winners.

In test matches India were a far superior team, unfortunately India didn't showed enough determination and hunger for win and as such Pak snatched a draw.

I think if India had shown the same dedication and determination that they showed playing in Pak against Pak last year, then they would have surely won both the test and OD series.Unfortunately Ganguly was out of sort in this series and as such wasn't able to motivate India to another historic win.

 

[Pratters]

I thought the toss played a vital role in the outcome of the last match!

What did the toss have to do with India getting all out for so less runs after the bowlers were smashed all over the park!

The Indian ODI team has been average after the series in Pakistan. Face it.

 

[nehrafan]

What did the toss have to do with India getting all out for so less runs after the bowlers were smashed all over the park!

The Indian ODI team has been average after the series in Pakistan. Face it.

The wkt started breaking up, the ball was keeping low in second innings.AS the match progressed, the wkt became difficult to bat.

I'm not trying to defend Indian batters, but the fact is that batting in 2nd innings wasn't easy.

A team that drops vital cathes of Malik and Inzi deserves to be losers, had those catches been taken things might have been different

 

[SJS]

nehrafan :

I thought the toss played a vital role in the outcome of the last match!
Yes sure. If India had batted first they would have lost by wickets instead of runs.

In test matches India were a far superior team, unfortunately India didn't showed enough determination and hunger for win and as such Pak snatched a draw.
What a dastardly, underhand thing to do, particularly when the opponent was so hunger-less !!

I think if India had shown the same dedication and determination that they showed playing in Pak against Pak last year, then they would have surely won both the test and OD series.
If auntie had moustaches I am sure she would have been uncle.

Unfortunately Ganguly was out of sort in this series and as such wasn't able to motivate India to another historic win
Of course !!! And the papers would read...

India win 6th ODI in a canter with 13 overs to spare !!

SCORECARD​

Pakistan : 303 for 8 (50) overs.

India 144+ Ganguly+motivation all out (37 overs)​

 

[deeps]

But anyway, Pak were a bit better team than India in Oneday series, and i guess they deserved to be the winners.

In test matches India were a far superior team, unfortunately India didn't showed enough determination and hunger for win and as such Pak snatched a draw.

a BIT better???? India were totally outclassed in most of the ODI's. the result was 4-2 which PROVES that the pakistan team is the superior ODI team.

In tests, india managed one win, pakistan managed one, and the other was a tie.

This means that both teams are equal, or very close, not a FAR superiour team as you say.

Another one of those indian supporters with their heads WAY up their ***

 

[Pratters]

tie.

DRAW

 

[nehrafan]

nehrafan :

I thought the toss played a vital role in the outcome of the last match!
Yes sure. If India had batted first they would have lost by wickets instead of runs.

In test matches India were a far superior team, unfortunately India didn't showed enough determination and hunger for win and as such Pak snatched a draw.
What a dastardly, underhand thing to do, particularly when the opponent was so hunger-less !!

I think if India had shown the same dedication and determination that they showed playing in Pak against Pak last year, then they would have surely won both the test and OD series.
If auntie had moustaches I am sure she would have been uncle.

Unfortunately Ganguly was out of sort in this series and as such wasn't able to motivate India to another historic win
Of course !!! And the papers would read...

India win 6th ODI in a canter with 13 overs to spare !!

SCORECARD​

Pakistan : 303 for 8 (50) overs.

India 144+ Ganguly+motivation all out (37 overs)​

Mate you need to calm down, there is no need to type in RED!

I can see ppl getting angry at Indian team and Ganguly, but i believe soon Indian team will be on right track.

 

[SJS]

Mate you need to calm down, there is no need to type in RED!

I can see ppl getting angry at Indian team and Ganguly, but i believe soon Indian team will be on right track.

No my dear. I typed in red to differentiate between your words and mine. I wil change the colour if it upsets you

 

[SJS]

And as for Naved being bald, I suppose its beter to have nothing on top of your head than inside it

 

[Unattainableguy]

but i believe soon Indian team will be on right track.

And that has been said everytime India has lost a series or a tournament.

 

[SJS]

I can see ppl getting angry at Indian team and Ganguly, but i believe soon Indian team will be on right track.

Yes i hope they wil be on the right track too. But they wont get there by making lame excuses for the losses.

 

[LongHopCassidy]

If auntie had moustaches I am sure she would have been uncle.

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