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***Official*** 4th Test @ The Oval, London - 2nd-6th September
- Thread starter GIMH
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Fantastic performance by India. Even after a poor first two seasons, some tail-end thwacking and early incisions into the England top order meant England could never build the lead that you'd need if you were batting last. England's middle order seldom comes to the rescue when the pressure is on. Once the opening partnership ended, only Root was likely to resist.
Not sure England will make any significant changes. Coverton out for Wood, perhaps. Anderson will continue, despite looking shattered. Long-term, they really need to decide on Bairstow and Mo in Test cricket as they've been on a downhill trend for ages, which are unlikely to improve. Hameed, Root, Pope, Woakes and Robinson are the only guys I'd seriously consider playing next Summer; Leach too, perhaps.
Not sure England will make any significant changes. Coverton out for Wood, perhaps. Anderson will continue, despite looking shattered. Long-term, they really need to decide on Bairstow and Mo in Test cricket as they've been on a downhill trend for ages, which are unlikely to improve. Hameed, Root, Pope, Woakes and Robinson are the only guys I'd seriously consider playing next Summer; Leach too, perhaps.
Burgey
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I really think they should. They’re in massive strife for the immediate-medium future. They’ve 1.5 decent batsmen (Burns the 0.5) with Stokes out, they’re shelling catches regularly and their bowling is a right arm medium-fast-a-thon. The attack they’re playing atm is very conditions dependant and both Anderson and Robinson probably need a breather as well, but they now can’t afford to
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This has been a good series for the neutral. Ball mostly on top of bat keeps everyone interested.
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
Sadly this is all correct.
I’m not too worried about the bowling, but the batting instils no faith whatsoever. I remember when I used to moan about Alastair Cook not converting enough (this relatively early in his career) and yet these days if an opener makes it to 20 I’m like ‘they’ve seen off the new ball and given Joe time to take a ****, well done lads’
Bring back Bell, Collingwood and Pietersen
RossTaylorsBox
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Uh, owned I guess?
Furball
Evil Scotsman
I was going to ask whether England have just become much worse at working with the ball since the Flower era, or whether India just got the better conditions this test to get the ball reversing.
RossTaylorsBox
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
*monocle flies off eyeball*
Indian fans are insecure!?
Indian fans are insecure!?
Well done to India that was a complete team display and they deserved the win, on the rahane situation i dont think he should be dropped for 5th test the guy served his country for over 10 years you just dont do away with a player like that he should have a farewell match at least.
CricAddict
Cricketer Of The Year
Good, sensible prediction.
Burgey
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Last summer here demonstrated their resilience tbh. They weren’t going to just roll over to slow medium dross like England dishes up. Still think they got the Ashwin selection wrong, but can’t fault Thakur on his game at all.
Arachnodouche
International Captain
Umesh is almost 34 (when did that happen?). He's still a tad erratic but I hope he gets to play more regularly over the next two years. He's underachieved you'd have to say considering the tools at his disposal: genuine speed, conventional and reverse swing, strong as a bull. Let's see him bring down that avg below 30 before he calls it a day.
Nintendo
Cricketer Of The Year
Has had an insane average at home in recent years, would be far higher in regards if India weren't in an ATG bowler era
Arachnodouche
International Captain
I think Ishant might finally be on his last legs. Hope he turns it around but his action looks more ragged than ever and he's also carrying a few extra pounds since the layoff. Perhaps that creates more room for Umesh abroad.
Shri
Mr. Glass
ironically if sam curran had played, i think moeen ali would have had more to work with from the pitch given the left arm bowler's foot marks/rough
Just discovered that Burns averages 32
He’s your version of late 80s Geoff Marsh - we all knew that he was **** but everyone else was more ****
Stokes will make a big difference if his head is sorted as could Foakes
Bowling will be a worry overseas apart from Robinson whom I rate
Archer injury is a big worry
Anderson can’t go on forever
Broad spends more time out of the side than in it
Wood is very quick but doesn’t move it
Curran moves it but isn’t quick enough
Anyone on the horizon?
_00_deathscar
International Regular
That's beautiful - just like Pink Floyd's Comfortably Numb.
Nintendo
Cricketer Of The Year
Stone is class, George garton is Rated by some but I'm not a fan personally, Mahmood is good. Also this young all-rounder named Darren Stevens going around ATM, 3 hundreds this season and Kent's leading wicket taker.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
True, but they will get the conditions (and the clouds) they love in Old Trafford. If they don't panic, they are in with an even chance in the last game. But if they do panic and make some ill advised changes, I do think it plays into India's hands. I dunno what the wicket will be like over there but seems like it will be cloudy. Just play the 4 seamers. Moeen at 7 is ok, I guess but they may want to see if they can get Leach in.