Kallis v Shane Watson

[TheJediBrah]

He really looked like a prank part timer. His success came from the troll. Should've been used more anyway but if he was taken seriously as an allround option he would've been far less effective IMO.

Nah underrated. He was accurate and varied his pace and trajectory well. A moderate upgrade on Jayasuriya

edit: oh and all finger-spinners look like prank part-timers tbh

 

[thierry henry]

Symonds bowling was filth. Scott Styris, now there's a 1975 Australian born ODI batting all-rounder you can set your watch to.

oh yeah Symonds wasn’t even born in Australia, this post stinks

 

[Prince EWS]

edit: oh and all finger-spinners look like prank part-timers tbh

Taking this into account, Blewett might've been the best part-timer. Absolutely cbf 90% of the time but whenever he was asked to bowl he'd churn out beautiful 130-135km/hr outswingers and everyone would be like wtf.

 

[CricAddict]

Nah underrated. He was accurate and varied his pace and trajectory well. A moderate upgrade on Jayasuriya

edit: oh and all finger-spinners look like prank part-timers tbh

Wow Symonds's bowling is an upgrade of Jayasuriya's? That's a joke.

 

[Prince EWS]

Wow Symonds's bowling is an upgrade of Jayasuriya's? That's a joke.

He was talking about Lehmann.

 

[anil1405]

Who was the better ODI cricketer?

Test cricket is obviously Kallis, T20 obviously Watson

Taking reviews obviously Kallis.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Wow Symonds's bowling is an upgrade of Jayasuriya's? That's a joke.

Lehmann was an upgrade on Jayasuriya in every department. Batting, bowling, mudguts, beautiful bald head, the list goes on

 

[Migara]

Kallis is under-rated in ODIs here but it's definitely Watson.

He has a case to have been the best ODI player ever.

Not sure about best ODI player. Best ODI all rounder he has a more than legitimate claim.

Best ODI player is pretty difficult to decide. However when batting, bowling, fielding, X factor, "Where hell did that come from" performances and leadership all combined it would be difficult to look past Viv and Jayasuriya.

 

[Shady Slim]

I remember Symonds picking up easy couple of wickets quite a few matches at the end in those years. Still he averaged 37 at econ of 5. No way was he a proper 5th bowler. But a good option to share those 10 overs by part-timers. Symonds Lehmann the Waughs Moody all combined to do a good job for 10 overs between them.

tbf out of your fifth bowler 1-2/50 off of 10 is quite a good haul, even in that era

 

[Migara]

He was talking about Lehmann.

Still a joke.

 

[ankitj]

Kallis is under-rated in ODIs here but it's definitely Watson.

He has a case to have been the best ODI player ever.

Best ODI player is a stretch but agree otherwise. Kallis was a very very good ODI player too in his own right.

 

[ankitj]

Pollock and Flintoff are up there from the allrounders you left out too IMO.

Imran too belongs in that company. I would argue Imran has the case to be considered the best ODI all-rounder of all time.

 

[TheJediBrah]

tbf out of your fifth bowler 1-2/50 off of 10 is quite a good haul, even in that era

Yeah an average of 37 at 5po is perfectly fine for a 5th bowler

 

[TheJediBrah]

ODI bowlers than Darren Lehmann is statistically (and in general) better than:

Kumar Dharmasena
Upul Chandana
Thilan Samaraweera
Rangana Herath (!)
Malinga Bandara
Dilruwan Perera
Suraj Randiv
Seekugge Prasanna

and etc.

 

[Migara]

^^Touche

 

[Red]

I remember Symonds picking up easy couple of wickets quite a few matches at the end in those years. Still he averaged 37 at econ of 5. No way was he a proper 5th bowler. But a good option to share those 10 overs by part-timers. Symonds

Mean scores batting first in ODIs thru Symonds career were over 250.

An economy of 5 means he did his job as a 5th bowler just fine.

 

[Bolo.]

Kallis is under-rated in ODIs here but it's definitely Watson.

He has a case to have been the best ODI player ever.

I think Watson's injury issues knock him out the running for best ever.

Hard to make a case against Viv in particular. Watsons bowling was obviously much better, but the fact that he actually did less bowling makes this gap smaller than the batting one. I assume Viv was the better fielder too?

 

[TheJediBrah]

I think Watson's injury issues knock him out the running for best ever.

Hard to make a case against Viv in particular. Watsons bowling was obviously much better, but the fact that he actually did less bowling makes this gap smaller than the batting one. I assume Viv was the better fielder too?

Remember Watson's direct hit run out from the boundary with 1 stump to aim at against your boys in the 07 world cup

 

[Bolo.]

Remember Watson's direct hit run out from the boundary with 1 stump to aim at against your boys in the 07 world cup

Nope. Pretty sure the last world cup RSA played in was 98 France, so you must be mistaken.

 

[honestbharani]

ODI bowlers than Darren Lehmann is statistically (and in general) better than:

Kumar Dharmasena
Upul Chandana
Thilan Samaraweera
Rangana Herath (!)
Malinga Bandara
Dilruwan Perera
Suraj Randiv
Seekugge Prasanna

and etc.

The fact that Migara made you look up these guys is a win for him, tbh.