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In terms of match impact, is Botham better than Tendulkar and McGrath?

Migara

International Coach
80-88
80-89

difference, IIRC he started dropping bowling in 89.
Even then he averaged 33.5 with the ball and 72.8 with the bat till he retired. Only played 15 matches from 89 - 92. That bowling is better than what half of Botham's career was.

I am not sure what is your point.
 

DrWolverine

International Vice-Captain
Imran Khan’s career

As a bowler
1971-1979 : 25 Tests. 98 wkts @ 31.89
1980-1986 : 35 Tests. 184 wkts @ 15.93
1987-1992 : 28 Tests. 80 wkts @ 27.53

As a batsman
1971-1981 : 36 Tests. 1291 runs @ 24.83
1982-1992 : 51 Tests. 2516 runs @ 51.3
 

govinda indian fan

International Debutant
Imran Khan’s career

As a bowler
1971-1979 : 25 Tests. 98 wkts @ 31.89
1980-1986 : 35 Tests. 184 wkts @ 15.93
1987-1992 : 28 Tests. 80 wkts @ 27.53

As a batsman
1971-1981 : 36 Tests. 1291 runs @ 24.83
1982-1992 : 51 Tests. 2516 runs @ 51.3
How many not outs and how many innings beating **** out of ordinary attacks(india, sl and post 86 england
 

Migara

International Coach
He couldn't bowl as his action wasn't effortless and he was getting old, affectively played as a batsman and part time bowler.
Botham half of his career played a a part time bowler and part time batsman.
 

DrWolverine

International Vice-Captain
Imran was a little before my time but from what I saw on YouTube, he seemed to exert himself a lot while bowling.

Imran bowled an entire day unchanged once against Australia and said “You only become a great fast bowler by bowling lots of overs.”

Imran told this about his protege Akram “I made them bowl till their backs hurt. That’s how you learn fast bowling; through overs, through effort.”
 

Johan

Hall of Fame Member
Did he get any injuries?
Or just that he was getting old and couldn’t bowl like before?
He had an injury that he missed more than a year over, he came back and bowled with the same action but he was 36-37 by 1989 and couldn't bowl much well anymore.
 

Johan

Hall of Fame Member
Botham half of his career played a a part time bowler and part time batsman.
He was really only bad in 1987 and the pathetic comebacks he made to get some cash in his pocket. Kind of hilarious how you needed to bring up Imran in a thread that didn't discuss him, guess the thread had too much Botham appreciation for you to tolerate.
 

Coronis

Hall of Fame Member
He was really only bad in 1987 and the pathetic comebacks he made to get some cash in his pocket. Kind of hilarious how you needed to bring up Imran in a thread that didn't discuss him, guess the thread had too much Botham appreciation for you to tolerate.
I’d be horrified if that became the norm on CW.
 

Migara

International Coach
He was really only bad in 1987 and the pathetic comebacks he made to get some cash in his pocket. Kind of hilarious how you needed to bring up Imran in a thread that didn't discuss him, guess the thread had too much Botham appreciation for you to tolerate.
It is more hilarious when I first replied to a different poster and with your dislike / bias of Imran allowed your obnoxious nose to be pushed in. If you don't like to discuss a subject, then don't ****ing respond to it.
 

Johan

Hall of Fame Member
It is more hilarious when I first replied to a different poster and with your dislike / bias of Imran allowed your obnoxious nose to be pushed in. If you don't like to discuss a subject, then don't ****ing respond to it.
I have Imran as the 7th greatest bowler of all time so I won't call it dislike, and you don't need to respond to me to bring up Imran in an unrelated thread.
 

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