Athlai
Not Terrible
You mean like how we already judge how people perform against minnows?There are also statistical considerations. Do records broken in the 2nd division get a star placed next to them?
You mean like how we already judge how people perform against minnows?There are also statistical considerations. Do records broken in the 2nd division get a star placed next to them?
Just like performances against Bangladesh, against Zimbabwe except the late 90s, against ATG West Indies or Australian teams, on roads, when it swings round corners, when it later came out sunny, when it turns big from day one, against teams that are only good at home, when the oppositions best bowler/batsman was injured, when there was discontent within the team, when the players hadn't been paid, when the umpires made bad decisions, when you lost the toss?There are also statistical considerations. Do records broken in the 2nd division get a star placed next to them?
Point being the longer you stay in Div 2, unless other things are done to arrest a slide, the lesser your ability to get promoted again in the future. It's like being in a cyclic business - yeah you accept there are ups and downs but if a down sends you bankrupt there are no more ups.The only way it would kill cricket in those countries would be if they stay there for a long time. I mean if NZ were in the 2nd tier in the last 2 years, we'd have likely stomped on everyone in that division and then after being victorious against Sri Lanka/WI we'd have moved up to div 1.
Yes. And doing this would make that 'official'. Which would suck.You mean like how we already judge how people perform against minnows?
One could argue this is sort of the case it is already. Bangladesh/Zimbabwe play an overwhelming proportion of their internationals (especially ODIs) against each other or other minnows, so looking at a Bangladesh/Zimbabwe player's stats you'd already tend to take into account that the quality of opposition they've faced is, on average, less than players from other countries.There are also statistical considerations. Do records broken in the 2nd division get a star placed next to them?
Matches within this divisional structure would occupy no more than five months a year, leaving time for countries to schedule additional tours. A marquee series such as the Ashes, for example, could continue on its current cycle even if Australia or England were in different divisions.
This is so much simpler and makes a lot more sense as welli feel that a second tier could do better as five day non first class but not test status matches for the irelands and netherlandses to gradually get standard of play up until they can mix it with bigger teams
goes with my proposal to make touring games against localised minnow teams, eg india could have nepal, pakistan get the uae, etc
They absolutely need to insist on a minimum of home and away test series between divisional sides or it renders the whole thing completely pointless.I think the only way two tiers could really work would be if the ICC instituted a compulsory requirement for teams to play all other teams in their team home and away within a set period (four years perhaps), a bit like the old FTP, and also allowed Tests to be organised bilaterally across tiers.
As much as I'd really enjoy a tiered system under those conditions, I just can't see that being anywhere near the most effective way of making money out of Test cricket, and therefore I think it'd be really unlikely. To be fair though, this part of the article vaguely implies something similar to what I suggested:
You can always increase division sizes when you have more competitive teams in world cricket.Utter nonsense - it would be ok at the moment but what happens when West Indies get their act together again, and the Banglas keep progressing so that we have nine decent sides? Oh and Ireland and someone else get Test status but effectively get no proper Tests - lose/lose as far as I can see
That's interesting because to me the people who would want this through are looking for money not for the game.You can always increase division sizes when you have more competitive teams in world cricket.
I like the idea and would love it to happen. But those who only care about financial rewards will block it just as they have done countless times with test championship ideas.