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ICC considers repackaging Tests!

LA ICE-E

State Captain
how do you know you won't love the game with a little bit of change? Being anti change isn't really a good way of thinking. Change can be a good thing and a bad thing. We just need to try to change for the better not for the worse. And like it or not there will always be changes because that's how everything evolves otherwise we would still have under-arm bowling.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
how do you know you won't love the game with a little bit of change? Being anti change isn't really a good way of thinking. Change can be a good thing and a bad thing. We just need to try to change for the better not for the worse. And like it or not there will always be changes because that's how everything evolves otherwise we would still have under-arm bowling.
As a rule, change isn't neccessary. You don't know what you're missing if it never happens.

I don't really care in the slightest for "there'll always be change". That doesn't mean that change should always be embraced.
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
Bindra should just stick to Punjab Cricket Association and at most BCCI. The man shouldn't be allowed anywhere close to ICC. His suggestion that 'ICCare looking at ways to increase the scoring rate in Test Cricket' is laughable, shamelessly stupid and just so disrespectful to the game itself. If that is one of the suggestions that Bindra and his team came up with to make Test Cricket more exciting then I do not want any part of it.

People like Bindra and suggestions like that are the reason why rest of the world is afraid of BCCI taking over cricket.
 

LA ICE-E

State Captain
If it ain't broken, don't fix it
As a rule, change isn't neccessary. You don't know what you're missing if it never happens.

I don't really care in the slightest for "there'll always be change". That doesn't mean that change should always be embraced.
it is kinda of broke though. otherwise you wouldn't have so many empty stadiums. Change is essential in life. Without change we we wouldn't have one cricket without change we would have the world cup etc. you don't know what you're missing if it never happens but you aren't moving forward and just being in the same position as it was 100 years ago while everything else around it changes and moves on, eventually just leaving the game to the past.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
And do you see changes to Test Cricket changing that? I don't, unless you make them shorter, maybe 50-overs a side....oh wait...

Fact is, people will either attend Test Cricket or they won't, tinkering with the format in the same way as they have in ODIs would be ridiclous
 

LA ICE-E

State Captain
And do you see changes to Test Cricket changing that? I don't, unless you make them shorter, maybe 50-overs a side....oh wait...

Fact is, people will either attend Test Cricket or they won't, tinkering with the format in the same way as they have in ODIs would be ridiclous
that would depend on the idea and i can't think of any idea that would make it better so i'm not suggesting any thing but to be just blindly against change is also ridiculous.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Well I'm not blindly against change per se, just change for change's sake. If someone came up with an idea that would actually improve Test Cricket, then I'd be all for it, but I don't see what they could come up with, aside from maybe turbo time, which I proposed on CW recently
 

LA ICE-E

State Captain
well that was all i was trying to say. We shouldn't just be against change but i wasn't suggesting and nor should it happen for the sake of it. We should change for the better.

what is turbo time?
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
it is kinda of broke though. otherwise you wouldn't have so many empty stadiums. Change is essential in life. Without change we we wouldn't have one cricket without change we would have the world cup etc. you don't know what you're missing if it never happens but you aren't moving forward and just being in the same position as it was 100 years ago while everything else around it changes and moves on, eventually just leaving the game to the past.
Change isn't remotely essential in life, we could live very easily without it. However there's no point in changing something which many people hold dear, such as many facets of Test cricket.

And really, you'll never get crowds flocking to Tests unless you completely change them. In which case, they won't be the Tests everyone has come to know the last 100 years. You can't increase the audience for something that has no potential for the audience to be increased.
 

slugger

State Vice-Captain
rugby has a bonus point system.. that awards teams a bonus point when the score 3 trys or more..

this is t o benefit the spectators as it creates more attacking game .. and even a team who have lost can still get a bonus ppoint for the extras trys.

i suspect cricket would need to introduce something like this to speed up the scoring rate.. so for example teams still could gain points (bonus points) in a drawn match, through individauls personal achievements in the game.. centuries, 5 for .. for example.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Already happens in English FC Cricket, 5 bonus points for scoring 400 within 130 overs, and 5 bonus points for taking 9 (might be 10 now actually) wickets in same time period
 

slugger

State Vice-Captain
well there you go.. thats the funny thing about cricket at national level its got all these mechanisms to advance the game.. however at international level nothing exist.
 

chaminda_00

Hall of Fame Member
I don't think that's going to eventuate though. Australia's FC system breeds a bowling attack that's largely adaptable to away Tests, especially in England, South Africa and the West Indies. Given the eclectic nature of their own home pitches, it's somewhat of a necessity anyway. What you're supposing is that Australia degenerates into something like the formerly Indian or latterly English model of cricket, while a better, more adaptable side adopts an FC model that's more conducive to what would usually be an Australian team makeup. So, in other words, the universe turns upside down. :p

What you're saying is hypothetically sound, but I think is fairly unlikely to happen. In light of that, I think the only conclusive way of determining a changeover is by defeat in a home series.

We have been blessed (cursed?) however, with two sides in 70/80s Windies and 90s/2000s Australia, that are good enough to consistently win away and support my theory of this 'changeover', in that they started to dominate in a way that happened incidentally after they began to beat the previous best in their backyard. The competitive climate in Test cricket could well change in that there's no clear dominator after Australia eventually lose at home, and ergo no single 'world champion' to be clearly determined.

Which would **** on my argument rather emphatically. :ph34r:
I'm not sure about your asessment of the Australian FC system. Personally I think it is more tailored to developing bowlers and batsmen who are more developed to play at home then away. It just that their have been a handful of greats like Ponting, Warne and McGarth that have played brillant away from home that have made it look other wise. I'm not going to get into a Hayden v anyone arguement. But I think he is prime example of this system. There are a few others that are looking like they are going to be similar; Jaques, Hussey, Johnson, Lee etc.

Also I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure West Indies never really had a care over Test series were they became No 1. It was just in the early 70s (mainly due to SA's explosition) they were seen as the most consistent side in World. They were only really given the official status as No 1, when they won a ODI tournment (1975 WC). Really they needed to play South Africa in a series to be given an official No 1 status prior.
 

LA ICE-E

State Captain
Change isn't remotely essential in life, we could live very easily without it. However there's no point in changing something which many people hold dear, such as many facets of Test cricket.
um yeah i guess change isn't essential , i guess we should still be cave mens and be hunters and gatherers. should still live like that, hey we might as well not change from that and not even have cricket...what?!? change isn't essential? are you kidding me? everything new that happens is a change from the past when it didn't happen. And if it wasn't essential, we'd still be cave mens. And cricket isn't so easy that even a cavemen could do it.

And really, you'll never get crowds flocking to Tests unless you completely change them. In which case, they won't be the Tests everyone has come to know the last 100 years. You can't increase the audience for something that has no potential for the audience to be increased.
why do you get crowd for the ashes? cause it means something.
 
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NUFAN

Y no Afghanistan flag
Should get bonus points for scoring slowly, say less than 320 in 140 overs, that's what I would like to see. :dry:
 

biased indian

International Coach
World champioship is good idea...will have an added weightage to some series...

and you dont have to win @ home of the current holders to get the tiltle if u have won @ home and is able to even hold the current champions at their home i think title can change hand

And what ICC has to do is if a test match fail to achive a result they should fine the home team...not that every draw must be fined..thye should have some criteria where we dont get a match where both the teams batting first can score 500+..it was very funny when they wanted to know about the pitch of the last match of the recent IND VS SA series while there was no problem over the First test for me it should have been the other way around
 

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