ICC considers repackaging Tests!

[Isura]

Faster over rates and test cricket would be perfect

 

[Isura]

well there you go.. thats the funny thing about cricket at national level its got all these mechanisms to advance the game.. however at international level nothing exist.

Well, the English FC point system works because it is a league format. Test cricket is played in a series format, so a point system wouldn't make sense unless you used some complicated weighted system due to the asymmetry in the playing schedules. And there have been changes to improve the international game, such as 90 overs in a day. What test cricket needs to improve IMO is faster over rates, and looser restrictions regarding playing through rain and especially bad light.

 

[Richard]

rugby has a bonus point system.. that awards teams a bonus point when the score 3 trys or more..

this is t o benefit the spectators as it creates more attacking game .. and even a team who have lost can still get a bonus ppoint for the extras trys.

i suspect cricket would need to introduce something like this to speed up the scoring rate.. so for example teams still could gain points (bonus points) in a drawn match, through individauls personal achievements in the game.. centuries, 5 for .. for example.

Already happens in English FC Cricket, 5 bonus points for scoring 400 within 130 overs, and 5 bonus points for taking 9 (might be 10 now actually) wickets in same time period

Bonus-points are one of the worst ideas ever to last 30 years, even in cricket.

I don't 100% agree with him, but by-and-large I think cricket can do best without bonus-points. I particularly hate them for ODI tournaments - NRR is so much better it's untrue - and while some sort of them are important for the Championship I'm not terribly keen on the current situation.

 

[Richard]

um yeah i guess change isn't essential , i guess we should still be cave mens and be hunters and gatherers. should still live like that, hey we might as well not change from that and not even have cricket...what?!? change isn't essential? are you kidding me? everything new that happens is a change from the past when it didn't happen. And if it wasn't essential, we'd still be cave mens. And cricket isn't so easy that even a cavemen could do it.

If we were all still cavemen, we'd not know any better and we'd not be unhappy about it. It wasn't remotely essential, much as we've enjoyed the riches we mostly currently enjoy. You don't miss what you don't know about.

why do you get crowd for the ashes? cause it means something.

By-and-large in this country, you get crowds for most Tests. Lack of crowds are not a problem here, they're a problem only elsewhere.

And in any case, I really don't see it as as much of a problem as it's often painted. Countless millions still watch on TV, and TV companies still fork-out huge sums of money for broadcast rights. Suggesting the Test game isn't really declining at all. The notion that Test cricket is declining in popularity is about the oldest chestnut on cricket's tree, really.

 

[Leslie1]

Put more on the line in a certain series.

Ashes prime example as people have noted.

Hype it up like IPL, heck go further and give the PR the NBA, NFL, etc hype.

Marketting shouldn't be hard to do, and it doesn't tinker with the game mechanics. Add more to the tests arena like a West Indies version of Barmy Army, or a speed gun comp when lunch is on or when there is a break in play, add in some entertainment to keep the crowd happy. In fact add in music like drums to make the crowd entertained without having to change the test matches' mechanics.

ODIs and 20 20s do this often, so why not test matches?

Also less countries, test matches should be compelling to watch. Not hidings before the test's even gone past day 3.

 

[vic_orthdox]

well there you go.. thats the funny thing about cricket at national level its got all these mechanisms to advance the game.. however at international level nothing exist.

Because there is nothing else to be achieved but winning.

 

[Athlai]

TBH as long as we get 5 days of uninterrupted cricket I don't think overrates are that bad. If come the 5th day you are 30 overs short, than start a bit earlier and finish a bit later. I like the game being played at the pace which the best fields can be set and the bowlers can play at their peak instead of trying to keep up with a schedule.

 

[KiWiNiNjA]

World Championship would only work if they got rid of minnows. i.e Zimbabwe, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and New Zeland.

***hides from Kiwi posters***

If we actually got to play as many tests as most other nations then maybe we would actually have a chance.

The ICC does need to sort something out where all countries play the same amount of test. **** these 5 match series, **** these 2 match series. Yeah, I know it is all about money, but ffs, if you play 80% ODI's and your domestic circuit is ****, then ofcourse you are gonna be ****.

[/drunk post break-up rage]

 

[Jono]

Should get bonus points for scoring slowly, say less than 320 in 140 overs, that's what I would like to see.

Was that a sarcastic potshot at my post?

If so, I'm not saying low scoring rates are great. I just don't want some artificial change (be it further flattening of the pitch, bringing the ropes in etc.) to change test cricket, and make 5rpo the norm.

Bowling is a part of test cricket too

 

[silentstriker]

Should get bonus points for scoring slowly, say less than 320 in 140 overs, that's what I would like to see.

I'd be fine with 320 in 140 overs, as long as the matches are producing a result. This obsession with scoring rates is ridiculous. It's never going to be enough. Once you get used to a higher rate, people will want to see it still higher.

 

[funnygirl]

Make pitches that are green every where ,also remove the bouncer rule .

 

[Richard]

[/drunk post break-up rage]

Sorry to hear that BTW fella.

 

[Richard]

TBH as long as we get 5 days of uninterrupted cricket I don't think overrates are that bad. If come the 5th day you are 30 overs short, than start a bit earlier and finish a bit later. I like the game being played at the pace which the best fields can be set and the bowlers can play at their peak instead of trying to keep up with a schedule.

I want time to be able to be made-up for delays and poor over-rates. But really, it is not too much to ask for 15 overs per hour to be bowled. 20, of course that's OOTQ these days, completely so. But 15 is not, it's fairly straightforward.

If you just show a bit of urgency, cut down on silly, unnecessary breaks in play, you can still have plentiful breathers and captains can set fields easily.

 

[cowboysfan]

how about awarding test matches only to grounds with lights so that 90 overs are completed in a day?.I think the pink ball might be useful with this.

stiff penaties should be imposed on teams not completing 15 overs an hour.

A test championship is a great idea where the top 2 teams play 2 tests to determine the top team(one in each country)

 

[LA ICE-E]

If we were all still cavemen, we'd not know any better and we'd not be unhappy about it. It wasn't remotely essential, much as we've enjoyed the riches we mostly currently enjoy. You don't miss what you don't know about.

So we shouldn't try to more forward? Just be stuck in time?

By-and-large in this country, you get crowds for most Tests. Lack of crowds are not a problem here, they're a problem only elsewhere.

And in any case, I really don't see it as as much of a problem as it's often painted. Countless millions still watch on TV, and TV companies still fork-out huge sums of money for broadcast rights. Suggesting the Test game isn't really declining at all. The notion that Test cricket is declining in popularity is about the oldest chestnut on cricket's tree, really.

Yes in england and australia they're are crowds but else where there isn't. And like i said I can't think of anything that would make it better but no one should be blindly against ideas of change. test championship is a good idea though would give more value to toping the icc test championship table a best out of 3 may be? home field advantage to #1 team home away home series or for traveling proposes away home home #1 team.

 

[honestbharani]

said that in the other thread.


Stupidity, thy name is BCCI.



If you want to make test cricket attractive, prepare pitches better than the likes of what we saw in Chennai... Make batting a little more difficult, make bowling a little more enjoyable. Make sure there is a contest between bat and ball.


But I assume Bindra is talking about some IPL type thing here.. Get bollywood bigshots to own teams, get cheer leaders in, make sure people score at 10 an over, make sure there are plenty of "DLF Maximums" etc.. What an idiot!!!

 

[Richard]

So we shouldn't try to more forward? Just be stuck in time?

Of course we should try to move forward. Not all change is moving forward, however, and if you don't try you don't miss what you don't know you don't have.

Yes in england and australia they're are crowds but else where there isn't. And like i said I can't think of anything that would make it better but no one should be blindly against ideas of change.

If there's nothing specific that can be thought of to make improvements, yes, they should. Change should only happen if you've a clear idea of what you're aiming for, not just "let's have some change". Change for the sake of change is the stupidest idea.

test championship is a good idea though would give more value to toping the icc test championship table a best out of 3 may be? home field advantage to #1 team home away home series or for traveling proposes away home home #1 team.

Test Championships (other than the rolling one used between 2001 and 2003) are a very bad idea, there's a reason they've never happened before (apart from 1912 when there were just 3 teams). It's simply not practical.

You will never get mass audiences to Tests as they are recognised by those who love them. Simple fact. The potential audience for Twenty20, as said audience includes riff-raff, is far, far bigger. You can either destroy Tests by trying to make them more popular than the real Test cricket can be, or you can leave them for those who enjoy them as they are.

 

[LA ICE-E]

Of course we should try to move forward. Not all change is moving forward, however, and if you don't try you don't miss what you don't know you don't have.

If there's nothing specific that can be thought of to make improvements, yes, they should. Change should only happen if you've a clear idea of what you're aiming for, not just "let's have some change". Change for the sake of change is the stupidest idea.

Like I said before not for the sake of it but being blindly against is also stupid.

Test Championships (other than the rolling one used between 2001 and 2003) are a very bad idea, there's a reason they've never happened before (apart from 1912 when there were just 3 teams). It's simply not practical.

You will never get mass audiences to Tests as they are recognised by those who love them. Simple fact. The potential audience for Twenty20, as said audience includes riff-raff, is far, far bigger. You can either destroy Tests by trying to make them more popular than the real Test cricket can be, or you can leave them for those who enjoy them as they are.

It's not really impractical, no one just thought of a practical idea of it yet. We already have the ranking So all you gotta do is follow the college football system here. And if switching countries is too difficult then just have it in the country of the #1 team in the rankings which would just be as easy as hosting any other tour. So depending o how far apart they want to have a test championship, they just need to have a slot for a month reserved test cricket. I understand that different country have different seasons, so the # 1 team push it back a little etc.

You get huge crowds at most tests played in australia and england. And yes they have a lot of fans but so does all the other countries. But to others test series doesn't matter that much. I remember clips of Bangladesh's debut was packed. I bet if there's a championship, it will be packed to

 

[cowboysfan]

From the AGE

Points system planned to revitalise Tests

June 10, 2008

THE proposed championship of Test cricket could include a quadrennial trophy presentation ceremony and a points system, with allowances for bonuses, in a bid to revitalise the five-day game globally.

The concept of a Test championship, first raised by a Chicago-based consultancy firm and promoted by Cricket Australia, has been discussed at International Cricket Council-level for the past six months, and seems to have the tentative support of most member nations. Though details have yet to be agreed upon, the competition model is unlikely to take the form of a World Cup-style tournament, but rather a four-yearly home-and-away series, with points awarded for each match and a winner crowned at the conclusion.

Discussions have also taken place about the viability of a bonus points system, which would provide incentive for teams to perform and discourage negative cricket. The move might rankle traditionalists, but administrators believe it could help enliven the game, giving context to each match played.

"There is still a lot of spadework that needs to be done," said Inderjit Singh Bindra, who next month will assume the newly created role of principal adviser to the ICC. "The form, the format and the frequency are all part of the discussion at the moment. It has been discussed by a number of countries, and there is hope that this might work."

Several impediments to the Test championship remain, however.

Australia, for one, is uncertain how such a format would effect its "icon series", including the Ashes and the Border-Gavaskar Trophy. Others fear that such a system would lead to more series against rivals with little commercial appeal.

Should the concept gain approval, it would presumably start after the conclusion of the current Future Tours program in 2012.


If a four-year "tournament " is the best they could come up with than its best they didnt have it all.how can they expect this to succeed if the result will be known in 2016?.

 

[silentstriker]

From the AGE

Points system planned to revitalise Tests

June 10, 2008

THE proposed championship of Test cricket could include a quadrennial trophy presentation ceremony and a points system, with allowances for bonuses, in a bid to revitalise the five-day game globally.

The concept of a Test championship, first raised by a Chicago-based consultancy firm and promoted by Cricket Australia, has been discussed at International Cricket Council-level for the past six months, and seems to have the tentative support of most member nations. Though details have yet to be agreed upon, the competition model is unlikely to take the form of a World Cup-style tournament, but rather a four-yearly home-and-away series, with points awarded for each match and a winner crowned at the conclusion.

Discussions have also taken place about the viability of a bonus points system, which would provide incentive for teams to perform and discourage negative cricket. The move might rankle traditionalists, but administrators believe it could help enliven the game, giving context to each match played.

"There is still a lot of spadework that needs to be done," said Inderjit Singh Bindra, who next month will assume the newly created role of principal adviser to the ICC. "The form, the format and the frequency are all part of the discussion at the moment. It has been discussed by a number of countries, and there is hope that this might work."

Several impediments to the Test championship remain, however.

Australia, for one, is uncertain how such a format would effect its "icon series", including the Ashes and the Border-Gavaskar Trophy. Others fear that such a system would lead to more series against rivals with little commercial appeal.

Should the concept gain approval, it would presumably start after the conclusion of the current Future Tours program in 2012.


If a four-year "tournament " is the best they could come up with than its best they didnt have it all.how can they expect this to succeed if the result will be known in 2016?.

I actually really like this idea! Kudos for this. I thought they were going to do something ridiculous like impose fielding restrictions.