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I believe in Jeetan Patel thread
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Kippax
Cricketer Of The Year
And it's not just 'hey, reign that in you'll be fine' with Flynn tbh, clearly technically struggles on the drive to spin. Flat-out duffs the basic task of a push to long-off even if they gave him one. People will recoil from the sight of Franklin-Vettori-KvW on paper, but Flynn has less going for him in Sri Lanka than Franklin, even if there is talk of their pitches changing in nature.
Latham would play at 5 personally, a hunch selection (which can't really happen with the pie model) but I could easily see him score well as an unknown quantity by crushing his most natural shot, the sweep.
ganeshran
International Debutant
This team can offer a serious challenge to Lanka on any ground not named the SSC Colombo. Except the slightly wobbly middle order, which will be strengthened by the presence of Vettori, it looks to be a balanced side.
Hurricane
Hall of Fame Member
I have to remind myself he scored 140 last time we were over there.
Hurricane
Hall of Fame Member
Latham needs a prodigious year of FC under his belt before they will pick him in tests. Honestly his off side play needs some work. His leg side play is wonderful.
Jeets stats watch:
Currently 49 wickets @ 21.46 for the season for Warwicks, just 7 Notts wickets left to fall in final game of the season.
Must be a long time since a NZer took 50 wickets in a country Champ season - perhaps Chris Cairns for Notts in late 90s / early 2000s? Edit - in 1995, 52 wickets @ 19.90.
Currently 49 wickets @ 21.46 for the season for Warwicks, just 7 Notts wickets left to fall in final game of the season.
Must be a long time since a NZer took 50 wickets in a country Champ season - perhaps Chris Cairns for Notts in late 90s / early 2000s? Edit - in 1995, 52 wickets @ 19.90.
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D'oh, yes.
But perhaps technically no. IIRC he is playing in England as a Kolpak player (through West Indian family). In NZ domestic cricket has been counted as an import in last few seasons, same as Hamish Marshall.
theegyptian
International Vice-Captain
World Class fielder also - least in the last hour
KungFu_Kallis
International Debutant
A positive attacking team (for SC) I'd like to see but won't happen at least for a while:
McCullum
Guptill
Williamson
Taylor
Ryder
Vettori
+De Boorder
Bracewell/Boult
Southee
Wagner
Nethula
McCullum
Guptill
Williamson
Taylor
Ryder
Vettori
+De Boorder
Bracewell/Boult
Southee
Wagner
Nethula
KungFu_Kallis
International Debutant
So apart from being a bit **** they're both awesome
benchmark00
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I've no idea how you can justify having Vettori in the top six of a test batting line up. Just does not compute with me. If NZ are being serious they need to pick 6 batsmen in the top six.
It's been historically based on the fact he scores more runs than any other alternative. Starting to agree with you though, eyes are not getting any better and that's what he's used to cope with a store-bought technique - along with determination. And we all know he's not justifying existence with the ball.
KungFu_Kallis
International Debutant
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Always one of the top 3 batsmen in the team in the past 10 years. And scores most of his runs under some pressure against a newish ball when NZ has been 60/6 before lunch. And he's almost as much of an allrounder as Jesse Ryder. End of
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Ok if you're dishing out stats.... Vettori averages about 27 for the last three years in test cricket. If you think it's good to have a bloke who has averaged that low, whose primary skill is bowling AND who is about 33 years old in your top six then I'm sorry you're watching a different sport than I am.
He should be 8.... 7 max.
wellAlbidarned
International Coach
Basically he's worth a shot at 6 for another series or two, if he's batting at 7 or 8 then he's not worth his place.
Unfortunately the stats don't look good for Vettori of late. The things keeping him there are a) experience/loyalty b) lack of middle order options c) lack of a front-line spinner. Jeets may have bowled okay to well in India but there's nothing to say he won't leak runs like crazy in SA and back here v England on unresponsive decks.
His batting stats say over the past two years that he's going to deliver a 20-30-40 at best. He's passed 50 once in the last 18 months. So yes, as bench said, that's a number 8 batsman. Problem is our keeper is also a number 8 at best. Our bowlers are decent value at 9-10-11 if we're talking Southee/Bracewell/Boult.
His batting stats say over the past two years that he's going to deliver a 20-30-40 at best. He's passed 50 once in the last 18 months. So yes, as bench said, that's a number 8 batsman. Problem is our keeper is also a number 8 at best. Our bowlers are decent value at 9-10-11 if we're talking Southee/Bracewell/Boult.