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Gilchrist calls Tendulkar a "Bad Sport"

biased indian

International Coach
my only pray is that tendulkar take this as a serious allegation and make sure other australians don't have to go with out his hand shakes int he current series :)..

rest can say what ever they want
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
No he didnt

Like Harby, he changed it
"During the hearing in front of Mike Procter, the match referee, during the Sydney Test, Tendulkar told him that he had heard some form of abuse,” Sridhar told Cricinfo. “But Procter didn't probe any further and left matters at that. But subsequently in front of Justice Hansen, when both parties were cross-examined by legal counsel, Tendulkar said that he had heard Harbhajan say teri maa ki but clarified that it was an abbreviated form of an abuse."

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/india/content/current/story/375194.html

As I said, I don't think he changed it. He might be lying (I certainly don't put it past him or anyone, and considering the accused, Harbhajan said it, and Sachin was protecting his teammate), but he didn't change his story.
 
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honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
In any case, I am pretty sure that Harbhajan said it, and Sachin covered it up, so I am not arguing on that point.


Perhaps, but I also think Harbhajan had a verbal agreement with Symonds that he won't call him by the word in question as long as he didn't verbally abuse him. I agree that Harbhajan deserved punishment if he had said the word but I also think Symonds should have copped it just as bad for unnecessarily abusing Harbhajan without the slightest provocation.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
He was playing cricket, didn't hear the phrase at issue, and continues to say that. Which is why he wasn't a witness at the hearing, like every other player on the field who was out of earshot (save Ponting of course, to whom the incident was reported by his players).
He was playing cricket, didn't hear the phrase at issue, and continues to say that. Which is why he wasn't a witness at the hearing, like every other player on the field who was out of earshot (save Ponting of course, to whom the incident was reported by his players).

If he had such feelings about what he perceives to be inconsistencies in Sachin's statements and about the way the boards and the officials handled the damn issue, why didn't he say anything back then and is only now digging it up from the grave?????????????







Surely it won't be because he never cared a hoot about it and only does so now as he has a book to sell, would it???????? :)




On another note, nice to see that Gilly is revered as much by some of our Aussie posters here as Sachin is by some of us Indians... :)
 

Edged&Taken

U19 Vice-Captain
I know what you're saying but it's not as if Gilly is representing Australia any more. He's an employee of the Deccan Chargers so if they want to do something silly about this like killing off his contract, they'll have to pay it out in which case, I'd say he won't give a crap because he'll still get his $$'s. He owes no-one an explanation, really.
True.

And he is likely to have new bosses this time. There's news that the Chargers are up for sale - $200m


http://ipl.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/3620953.cms
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Again, I don't really see how this is any sort of slight on Tendulkar's "squeaky clean career". It's just a massive beatup because Gilchrist was critical of his actions on a particular issue. So two cricketers with very good reputations for sportsmanlike conduct have a difference of opinion over an extremely controversial issue that divided the cricket world? And this is somehow a major slight on Gilchrist's character?

You could just as easily turn this issue around and argue that, on the face of Gilchrist's immaculate record, Tendulkar clearly must be guilty of what he is accused of and therefore is not quite what we imagined. Because really, that is what is being done here. I don't see this as a blemish on either of them, Gilchrist wrote a book in which he said something negative about another cricketer he is generally favourable towards. Unless you're Tendulkar himself or have some reason to believe you know exactly what went on and Gilchrist is being somehow dishonest, there's no reason to get upset over it.

It's a non-issue, let it go.


I don't think Gilly is dishonest but I think he is guilty of jumping to conclusions and is making an accusation of a racial slur on an Indian player based on what can only be extremely superficial evidence (body language, tone, gimme a break)......



Unless you think Gilly is beyond criticism (as many in India think Sachin is), you can surely see THIS point of the thread....
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Quite likely thats what happened. It was what immediately came to my mind but would that be something you would bother about mentioning in your autobiography? I haven't read the book and do not know the context but it is pretty odd on the face of it.



You would, if you want it to sell well and get a lot of publicity in newspapers without having to do much....... ;) :p
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Don't really see what the problem with the article is. We all know the Aussies thought Harbhajan was guilty. Whether he was guilty, or whether the Aussies mis-heard a term in another language, only one man knows and that is Harbhajan himself. Doesn't mean Gilchrist isn't allowed an opinion on the matter.

Doesn't mean we cannot criticize the man for that either, given that we ( at least I, personally) feel that his reasoning seem basically stupid.......
 

Uppercut

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"Gilchrist, a seemingly nice guy doesn't really like one other seemingly nice guy. Therefore Gilchrist must not be a nice guy at all!"

I can't believe the amount of discussion this non-story has got. Gilchrist's comments not only aren't remotely offensive to anyone, they probably aren't true and are just in there to sell his book. Who cares about them? Tendulkar won't be losing any sleep, i guarantee.
 
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honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
"Gilchrist, a seemingly nice guy doesn't really like one other seemingly nice guy. Therefore Gilchrist must not be a nice guy at all!"

I can't believe the amount of discussion this non-story has got. Gilchrist's comments not only aren't remotely offensive to anyone, they probably aren't true and are just in there to sell his book. Who cares about them? Tendulkar won't be losing any sleep, i guarantee.



hmmm..... where did I tell that my reaction was anything about what he said about Sachin???????????



I am talking about him telling Harbhajan was guilty and his "reasons" for that conclusion..... :)
 

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hmmm..... where did I tell that my reaction was anything about what he said about Sachin???????????



I am talking about him telling Harbhajan was guilty and his "reasons" for that conclusion..... :)
Sorry fella, didn't mean to aim my comment at you. I'll cut out your quote. :)
 

Jnr.

First Class Debutant
If he had such feelings about what he perceives to be inconsistencies in Sachin's statements and about the way the boards and the officials handled the damn issue, why didn't he say anything back then and is only now digging it up from the grave?????????????







Surely it won't be because he never cared a hoot about it and only does so now as he has a book to sell, would it???????? :)
Because Cricket Australia gagged the players. Duh.
 

four_or_six

Cricketer Of The Year
Doesn't mean we cannot criticize the man for that either, given that we ( at least I, personally) feel that his reasoning seem basically stupid.......
I don't see what seems stupid about it... seems like he's just giving his opinion. No harm in that, as he's not a current player. Unless no-one is allowed to criticise Tendulkar?
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Because Cricket Australia gagged the players. Duh.

It didn't work on Hayden, duh.................


If you cared so much about the issue, I don't think a soft ban would have mattered too much. And there were disappointed reactions to the hearing from the Aussie players after it ended too..... There wasn't much secret about it, and there didn't seem to be much of a secret either that Gilchrist didn't seem as affected by it as many others were........
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
I don't see what seems stupid about it... seems like he's just giving his opinion. No harm in that, as he's not a current player. Unless no-one is allowed to criticise Tendulkar?


Jeez man, where did I say anything about Tendulkar??????


Gilchrist can have whatever opinion he has formed on Sachin or Harbhajan or GW Bush. It is his right. I am not saying anything about that.



But he did give his reasons as to why he THOUGHT Harbhajan was guilty about the accusation raised on him and I THINK that those reasons are basically stupid, to put it quite bluntly.


I think I am allowed to have an opinion as much as Adam Gilchrist does. Chill out. :)
 

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