Gilchrist calls Tendulkar a "Bad Sport"

[Top_Cat]

Indian electronic media is stupid enough to spend zillions of news minutes on this. If they haven't so far it could be because they haven't noticed this bit of 'news'

I know what you're saying but it's not as if Gilly is representing Australia any more. He's an employee of the Deccan Chargers so if they want to do something silly about this like killing off his contract, they'll have to pay it out in which case, I'd say he won't give a crap because he'll still get his $$'s. He owes no-one an explanation, really.

 

[mikeW]

If the Indian media decides to sensationalise this, which seems inevitable atm, Gilly, considering his IPL prospects might as well be pressed to come up with some clearing the air.

Unneeded.

Would you ****ing give it a rest already? talk about being a drama queen.

 

[Precambrian]

Would you ****ing give it a rest already? talk about being a drama queen.

What the **** is your concern? If you don't want to see it, ignore it!

 

[Sanz]

He was playing cricket, didn't hear the phrase at issue, and continues to say that. Which is why he wasn't a witness at the hearing, like every other player on the field who was out of earshot (save Ponting of course, to whom the incident was reported by his players).

Fair enough, if it stopped there but If he didn't hear what was being said then how does he make the following statment :-

“Harbhajan was guilty and Indian team was doing everything to try and save him from being banned,”

 

[Sanz]

Whether the allegations have any substance to them, I think it's taken as a given that Sachin, by virtue of being human, is not queaky clean. Any assumption to the contrary is denial. Seriously, his deification is ridiculous and, to be honest, that he'd surely have some faults doesn't and shouldn't take away from the fact he's probably a pretty great guy.

And, again, don't dignify Conn's writing by reading it!

Tendulkar may or may not be clean on all things but what has that got to do with the accusations Gilly made.

 

[Sanz]

So a newspaper writes an eyecatching headline that doesn't reflect what's actually said in the article and the usual suspects bounce up and down about it. There's no news in any of that.

A Newspaper ?? Yeah Right !!

[SIZE=-1]Gilchrist questions Tendulkar's honesty [SIZE=-1]The Age[/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Tendulkar is a bad sport: Gilly [SIZE=-1]Sydney Morning Herald[/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Tendulkar is a sore loser: Gilchrist [SIZE=-1]The News International[/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2008/10/23/1224351451472.html[/SIZE]Bad sport: Adam Gilchrist lays into Tendulkar
Gilchrist takes jibe at Tendulkar in autobiography
Tendulkar is a sore loser: Gilchrist

 

[Top_Cat]

Tendulkar may or may not be clean on all things but what has that got to do with the accusations Gilly made.

Meh, had reasons but have decided the best way for such a pointless 'incident' to disappear out of the CW consciousness is to not contribute to the thread any more.

 

[SJS]

I know what you're saying but it's not as if Gilly is representing Australia any more. He's an employee of the Deccan Chargers so if they want to do something silly about this like killing off his contract, they'll have to pay it out in which case, I'd say he won't give a crap because he'll still get his $$'s. He owes no-one an explanation, really.

Agreed

 

[SJS]

Meh, had reasons but have decided the best way for such a pointless 'incident' to disappear out of the CW consciousness is to not contribute to the thread any more.

Point. I am done with it as of NOW !

 

[Jono]

A Newspaper ?? Yeah Right !!

[SIZE=-1]Gilchrist questions Tendulkar's honesty [SIZE=-1]The Age[/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Tendulkar is a bad sport: Gilly [SIZE=-1]Sydney Morning Herald[/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Tendulkar is a sore loser: Gilchrist [SIZE=-1]The News International[/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2008/10/23/1224351451472.html[/SIZE]Bad sport: Adam Gilchrist lays into Tendulkar
Gilchrist takes jibe at Tendulkar in autobiography
Tendulkar is a sore loser: Gilchrist

Heh

Whether people like it or not, this has received a large amount of coverage.

 

[Polo23]

Australian cricket team = the masters of being able to dish it out, but not being able to cop it.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

A lot, who swear by Tendulkar's squeaky clean career.

And am not Conn to jump into conclusions.

Again, I don't really see how this is any sort of slight on Tendulkar's "squeaky clean career". It's just a massive beatup because Gilchrist was critical of his actions on a particular issue. So two cricketers with very good reputations for sportsmanlike conduct have a difference of opinion over an extremely controversial issue that divided the cricket world? And this is somehow a major slight on Gilchrist's character?

You could just as easily turn this issue around and argue that, on the face of Gilchrist's immaculate record, Tendulkar clearly must be guilty of what he is accused of and therefore is not quite what we imagined. Because really, that is what is being done here. I don't see this as a blemish on either of them, Gilchrist wrote a book in which he said something negative about another cricketer he is generally favourable towards. Unless you're Tendulkar himself or have some reason to believe you know exactly what went on and Gilchrist is being somehow dishonest, there's no reason to get upset over it.

It's a non-issue, let it go.

 

[Precambrian]

Add to that some from India too,

Gilchrist slams Sachin, calls him a 'bad sport' - IBNLive.com, India

Gilly hits out at team India, questions Sachin’s honesty - Zee News, India

Gilchirst (sic) questions Tendulkar's honesty - Rediff,com, India

Tendulkar, a bad Sport - Gilchrist - The Hindu

Expect much more.

 

[Johnners]

If anyone needs to be layed into over the issue, it's the media for their sensationalistic crap. The Idea that Gilly has done something wrong is plain ridiculous, but I guess it's what happens you don't see eye-to-eye with the cricketer that has the greatest following and most fanatical fanbase in history.

 

[Precambrian]

Again, I don't really see how this is any sort of slight on Tendulkar's "squeaky clean career". It's just a massive beatup because Gilchrist was critical of his actions on a particular issue. So two cricketers with very good reputations for sportsmanlike conduct have a difference of opinion over an extremely controversial issue that divided the cricket world? And this is somehow a major slight on Gilchrist's character?

You could just as easily turn this issue around and argue that, on the face of Gilchrist's immaculate record, Tendulkar clearly must be guilty of what he is accused of and therefore is not quite what we imagined. Because really, that is what is being done here. I don't see this as a blemish on either of them, Gilchrist wrote a book in which he said something negative about another cricketer he is generally favourable towards. Unless you're Tendulkar himself or have some reason to believe you know exactly what went on and Gilchrist is being somehow dishonest, there's no reason to get upset over it.

It's a non-issue, let it go.

Am neither, but among crores who worship Tendulkar. Can't buy the argument that it is a non-issue. Nor I want to prolong a discussion on the same lines here. Fodder for discussion? Yes. Fodder for Ranting? No.

 

[Johnners]

It IS a non-issue though. 2 blokes don't agree, STOP THE PRESS!

 

[Precambrian]

If anyone needs to be layed into over the issue, it's the media for their sensationalistic crap. The Idea that Gilly has done something wrong is plain ridiculous, but I guess it's what happens you don't see eye-to-eye with the cricketer that has the greatest following and most fanatical fanbase in history.

This is what quoted by Gilchrist,

"In the Australian mentality, we play it hard and are then quick to shake hands and leave it all on the field. Some of our opponents don't do it that way. Sachin Tendulkar, for instance, can be hard to find for a changing room handshake after we have beaten India. Harbhajan can also be hard to find. I guess it's a case of different strokes for different folks."

Unless you have just arrived from Mars, or are a complete fool, it is obvious what Gilchrist is trying to tell regarding Sachin Tendulkar and Harbhajan Singh. That they are unsportsmanlike. Calling a legend unsportsmanlike is not a "non-issue".

Let Gilly be reminded of McGrath Sarwan incident as well as Lillee-Miandad.

 

[Precambrian]

It IS a non-issue though. 2 blokes don't agree, STOP THE PRESS!

Why try make it more sensational with these kind of posts? If someone finds it "non-issue", let them ignore it and that way this thread will die.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Unless you have just arrived from Mars, or are a complete fool, it is obvious what Gilchrist is trying to tell regarding Sachin Tendulkar and Harbhajan Singh. That they are unsportsmanlike. Calling a legend unsportsmanlike is not a "non-issue".

Or maybe what Gilchrist is trying to say is that for Australian players, what you say or do on the field doesn't matter as long as it's within the laws of the game, while for some Indian players, like Tendulkar and Harbhajan, they take things more personally. So they might be upset even after a match about what happened on the field, and maybe that's something that contributed to the strained relations between the sides during the 07/08 tour, and other tours.

Because honestly, that's pretty true IMO, and that's how it reads, if you actually read the quote and not the headline. He says that Australians "play it hard but are quick to look for a handshake after the game", but that some players aren't interested in 'shaking hands' so to speak. If he was trying to call them unsportsmanlike I doubt he would have backed it up with the phase "different strokes for different folks" because when it comes to sportsmanship, that's really not a common perspective.

edit: And frankly I don't see what Lillee and Miandad or whatever else has to do with this, unless you're trying to suggest Australian players are all evil monsters and therefore Gilchrist must be saying something horrible about Sachin or whatever. Like has been said, massive beatup, non issue, etc etc.

 

[Burgey]

Australian cricket team = the masters of being able to dish it out, but not being able to cop it.

Yep, spot on.

Look at Ponting's press conference after the latest loss when he blamed everyone and everything for the loss but for the opposition being too good and his own team not playing well enough.