Dasa
International Vice-Captain
Exactly...Langeveldt said:While this is not conclusive at all
Exactly...Langeveldt said:While this is not conclusive at all
No response to the rest of my post then?Dasa said:Exactly...
I would like to claim that I know better than the ICC in this case. I haven't done the biomechanical test myself but I definitely know more than them about the difference between throwing and bowling a cricket ball.Dasa said:My point is, I can't see how you or any one of us can claim to know better than the ICC in this case. Have you done the biomechanical tests yourself?
Exactly 37?Langeveldt said:and there is little doubt in my mind that Murali would be averaging 37 with the ball if it wasn't for his "issue"..
I'd like to say that you haven't a clue what you're talking about.Fiery said:I would like to claim that I know better than the ICC in this case. I haven't done the biomechanical test myself but I definitely know more than them about the difference between throwing and bowling a cricket ball.
They weren't above the 15 degree rule, they were over the 5 or 10 degree rule like basically every bowler.honestbharani said:What about the McGraths, the Gillespies and the Pollocks, who were above this 15 degree rule as well? Remember this was done by reputed former cricketers from all over the world, so I don't think there was any bias towards Murali there at all.
sorry, I meant to say the old rule....But I was just trying to point out that it is not bias towards anyone in particular.The Baconator said:They weren't above the 15 degree rule, they were over the 5 or 10 degree rule like basically every bowler.
I thought the brace was supposed to be a tight fit & rigid?marc71178 said:The C4 documentary with the brace only served to confuse the issue.
In fact it was pointed out that his arm straightened when bowling the doosra, even with the brace.
It's interesting, these two replies seem to contradict each other.Greg Blewett said:Actually with Charlie Griffith they did notice, several counties complained of him being a 'chucker' yet the Umpires were told not to call him because of:
1) racial tension within London at the time
2) the South African controversy was at its height also
I could quote large chunks of Truemans & Barringtons books as they both divulge into the matter much further with proof of the umpires being told not to call him as well as his whole bowling style changing.
Chances are you saw footage of Griffith either before or after he was throwing it. As the West Indian cricket board asked him to correct his action after that series.
Which "issue" would that be? His disjointed elbow, or his double-jointed wrist? I can confidently tell you that the elbow that has caused so many problems with people who can't understand their eyes deceiving them hasn't affected his bowling at all - why would it? His wrist, of course, has - but that's no more unfair than Shoaib being able to bowl faster than Mr. X because his arm goes around faster than Mr. X's arm.Langeveldt said:Theres a guy at college who bowls offies and when he deliberately does his "murali" impersonation (we all have lol), he can turn it square on a flat wicket.. While this is not conclusive at all, its still interesting, and there is little doubt in my mind that Murali would be averaging 37 with the ball if it wasn't for his "issue"..
Still, the ruling is put in place in order to accomodate Murali, and therefore save face for the ICC, the problem has been eradicated by moving the goalposts.. And the anti-Murali brigade now have to put up and shut up while he goes on messing with batsmen's careers from Colombo to Cairns..
That's interesting, I hadn't heard that one.honestbharani said:BTW, what do u guys have to say about some biomech expert saying that even a steel rod when rotated at the speed of a bowlers' delivery arm continuously for a certain number of times got bent?
He's not, he's just the only one they never noticed chucking (by the old, false, ideals) - if he does something no-one else has ever done I'll eat not just my computer but the planet Earth.SpeedKing said:no suprise Sarwan is the only bowler who doesn't chuck
Really?marc71178 said:The C4 documentary with the brace only served to confuse the issue.
In fact it was pointed out that his arm straightened when bowling the doosra, even with the brace.