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Famous Incidents of Gamesmanship/Cheating
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fredfertang
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wpdavid
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Talking of which ....
YouTube - 1982 World Cup Group 2 WEST GERMANY v AUSTRIA
For those too young to remember, this was the final group game. Germany needed to win, and Austria needed to lose by not more than one goal. The Germans went ahead early on, and that was the end of the contest: the commentator describes what followed in the last 30 seconds or so of the clip. As a result of this game, the final pairs of group matches were played simultaneously thereafter.
Scaly piscine
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Mohammed Zafar obviously.
The other Schumacher also worth a mention.Battiston's notorious headbutt against Schumacher's hip in '82.
That was match-fixing.
Burgey
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His performance was,imo, gamesmanship when combined with all the pre-fight hoopla and carry on. Certainly not cheating though.
Indipper
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Didn't really profit from it, did he? Assuming you mean the Villeneuve thing.
99*
International Debutant
Have to be Hill-Schumi. Which he did profit from.
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Whiny Brits again. No one calls Ayrton Senna a cheat for knocking bloody Alain Frog off the track. Hill was partly to blame imo, he just shot into the gap and Schumacher had nowhere to go. Guy could have just waited his turn till Schumi retired but oh no, he thought he was Nigel Mansell.
Matteh
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People do call Aryton a cheat for that.
Hill was partly to blame in so much as he was overtaking Schumacher at the time, which is a cardinal sin and can't happen. Schumacher had been off the corner before, rejoined the track slowly, Hill caught up, went for the inside, had the inside line and Schumacher cut across his bows. You're only allowed one defensive move in F1, Schumacher clearly had more than one.
Hill should've had 3 World Championships '94, '96 and '97 but was gipped out of two of them for very different reasons.
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Believe me I'm no fan of Schumacher. Only when he drew level with Fangio did I consider the outside chance that there might be a possibility of him being a decent driver. And back in the day I cursed his name left and right for this, being a Hill & Williams fan. But with some distance and the benefit of watching countless replays on ESPN Speedworld, I believe Hill cost himself the title by going into that corner too fast. Now if Schumacher's ride had been beyond repair at before the corner I would agree that what he did was grossly unsporting but since I can't remember if it was and don't think that it was, he is wrongly condemned I feel.
As for Hill and the fact that he 'should've' won three titles... well, without the shoddy stewarding at Silverstone the championship in 94 wouldn't have gone down the wire and apart from the fact that I find it a bit weird that you think Hill winning in 97 would have been a foregone conclusion, perhaps if he had cared less about money and more about winning, he might have stayed with Williams. After all, no one but Arrows wanted to pay that much money for him.
thierry henry
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Margacheato may well have had Plaster of Paris in his gloves when he beat up Cotto as well. That fight may well have ended Cotto as a serious force to.
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Burgey
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Serious? That's bloody terrible.
cpr
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Guilty of pumping steroids into their players too, if you believe what the players say (admittedly Tony Cascarino isn't the most reliable source), though your right, were buggered for fixing, my memory a bit hazy there.
wpdavid
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The other day I came across a clip of a game I'd forgotten all about - Celtic's 1974 EC semifinal against Atletico Madrid. I don't know if any other CWers remember it, but Madrid were astonishly vicious even by the standards of the time. Apparently they managed to commit 51 fouls during the game at Parkhead and even had two players sent off in an era when you could get away with murder as a defender. The final between Madrid & Bayern Munich was notable as the only time neutrals wanted the German side to win, which they eventually did comfortably in a replay after almost losing the first game.
There's a few incidents from the game after the Inter game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjhrLqndD1U&NR=1
There's a few incidents from the game after the Inter game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjhrLqndD1U&NR=1
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HeathDavisSpeed
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How's about this for the complete opposite of gamesmanship or cheating. Great story of someone in football having some decent morals.
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shivfan
Banned
And, in other sports, quite a few athletes are testing positive for methylhexaneamine....
Stimulant again involved in doping case - Yahoo! Sports
Aussie and Saffer rugby players, Uzbek wrestlers, Nigerian sprinters....
"ASADA said in October that nine Australian athletes had tested positive for methylhexaneamine. They had not been publicly identified, pending further investigations."
Funny, but when Yohan Blake et al tested positive for this, the Jamaicans were cheating, but now, all of a sudden, it's the drug's fault!
Will the rugby tribunal accept the flimsy excuse put forward by the Saffer rugby authorities?
Lillian Thomson
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Can’t think of anything from the last couple of years.