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DRS: Why the opposition?

Bun

Banned
interesting piece. just trying to give comments on the three pertinent points u raised.

1. footing the bill

I dont think bcci is really worried abt the costs. heck, if other boards can regulalrly use it, bcci should be the last board to bemoan the costs.

2. on field call

while I do share ur views on two exactly same deliveried have diff outcomes, this is on the assumption that hawkeye is not 100 percent correct, and hence where there is enough doubt, the on field umpire's call takes precedence. I think thats logical considering had there been no udrs, the outcomes would,ve been no different, and such calls can hardly be considered erroneous.

3. agree fully on implementing hotspot.
 

gvenkat

State Captain
interesting piece. just trying to give comments on the three pertinent points u raised.

1. footing the bill

I dont think bcci is really worried abt the costs. heck, if other boards can regulalrly use it, bcci should be the last board to bemoan the costs.

2. on field call

while I do share ur views on two exactly same deliveried have diff outcomes, this is on the assumption that hawkeye is not 100 percent correct, and hence where there is enough doubt, the on field umpire's call takes precedence. I think thats logical considering had there been no udrs, the outcomes would,ve been no different, and such calls can hardly be considered erroneous.

3. agree fully on implementing hotspot.
I have big problems when they say hawkeye is not 100%. It does not really make sense. Then you are essentially second-guessing.
 

Bun

Banned
I have big problems when they say hawkeye is not 100%. It does not really make sense. Then you are essentially second-guessing.
well lets take the bcci ecample itself.

in that eng match, ian bell got away with one pitching 2.6 mt down the line. and I do agree udrs screwed up there not giving out as well.

but what if there had been no udrs. the decision wouldve been exactly same. so its not a problem created by udrs, nor is something which could've been avoided had it been absent as well.
 

Howe_zat

Audio File
I agree with you on hot-spot. The technology is there, use it. Yes, the cost is in the thousands but it's fraction of the money these boards spend every year. It'd only be as much as one extra contract, probably less. The BCB may have issues, but I'm sure that can be worked around.

The on-field call does make sense, because as you say the system is designed to overturn the obviously poor decisions. If a decision can be seen as marginal by the third umpire, then someone has to make an informed decision. The man best placed to do that is the umpire who made the initial decision.
 

Uppercut

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The one where the human eye almost always gets it wrong is when a ball pitches quite short but keeps low, like Kemar Roach's wicket yesterday evening. It tends to hit the batsman high on the pad, even when they're on the front foot, so it looks like it's going over but the flat trajectory is taking it straight into the stumps. When onlookers think hawkeye has "got it wrong", that's usually why.
 

smash84

The Tiger King
well lets take the bcci ecample itself.

in that eng match, ian bell got away with one pitching 2.6 mt down the line. and I do agree udrs screwed up there not giving out as well.

but what if there had been no udrs. the decision wouldve been exactly same. so its not a problem created by udrs, nor is something which could've been avoided had it been absent as well.
This
 

Top_Cat

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The one where the human eye almost always gets it wrong is when a ball pitches quite short but keeps low, like Kemar Roach's wicket yesterday evening. It tends to hit the batsman high on the pad, even when they're on the front foot, so it looks like it's going over but the flat trajectory is taking it straight into the stumps. When onlookers think hawkeye has "got it wrong", that's usually why.
Wish there was Hawkeye around 1999, tbh....

Guessing but I'm reckoning it would have upheld Hair's decision, one of the few he got absolutely right.

(Sorry Darryl, you were really nice when you umpired a game I played in but you're a **** international ump).
 
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smash84

The Tiger King
Wish there was Hawkeye around 1999, tbh....

Guessing but I'm reckoning it would have upheld Hair's decision, one of the few he got absolutely right.

(Sorry Darryl, you were really nice when you umpired a game I played in but you're a **** international ump).
Actually I think that this is one of those that UDRS would have over turned. It was close tbh but if you pause the video at 0:22 that is just a foot before it hits Tendulkar I think you will see that the ball's height is higher than the stumps at that point.
 

vcs

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Actually I think that this is one of those that UDRS would have over turned. It was close tbh but if you pause the video at 0:22 that is just a foot before it hits Tendulkar I think you will see that the ball's height is higher than the stumps at that point.
Yeah, but it is actually on its way down when it hits him. Very weird bounce on that ball. The decision is spot on, but you have to say the batsman is a bit unlucky to receive that.

Then again, it's McGrath, and I can remember at least a couple of wickets he took on the first day at Lord's 2005 in a similar fashion. :cool: He knew exactly how to exploit a pitch behaving like that.
 

honestbharani

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The shoulder before wicket is one of the biggest myths around cricket floated around the internet and elsewhere.. The other is the big copy/paste list of "tributes" to Sachin by various players.. My only issue is like almost half of them were never said..
 

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Yeah, but it is actually on its way down when it hits him. Very weird bounce on that ball. The decision is spot on, but you have to say the batsman is a bit unlucky to receive that.
Yeah, at 0:22 it looks like it's going over but if you pause at 0:24 the ball is level with the stumps again. Very unusual. Nightmare for Sachin but a rare excellent decision from Hair.
 

Howe_zat

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Doesn't seem to have risen above the stumps at any point. I wouldn't complain either way, really, but it looks like a good decision.
 

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