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Decade/Country test draft

mr_mister

mr_mister

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
JOJOXI said:
Personally would be willing to go a bit further back but there is a bit of a hmmm I do go through with players from very early cricketing generations. Would still think of Spofforth and Lohmann as good picks if rating a team but despite their records would never personally put them over a more modern player who has excelled to a great degree like a Marshall/Steyn etc. Have a list of 366 players of pretty much I'll only go for those players in drafts like this, only 22 of those in the 1800s - those 2 you mentioned being 2 of those 22. Realistically I'd be surprised if I have more then 2 or 3 players with debuts before the 1940s in my final XI. With the game being so different then both in terms of quality as well as averages seeming bowler friendly think perspectives of players from late 1800s/early 1900s are likely to vary more widely too amongst fellow drafters - not only the typical biases/different priorities in rating players but they have generally performed in only 2/3 countries and to a lower standard although I guess its a bit like Pele in football - some would have him no doubt the greatest ever I've seen others say he was good but vastly overhyped I'm somewhere in between.
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More or less agree, but have noticed i am happy to pick older era batsmen(even pre 1900) more than early era bowlers. I mean Hobbs definitely brings in the votes. Sydney Barnes and Larwood/Tate/Gregory are early era pacemen I'm comfortable picking, perhaps because footage exists of batsmen swaying/ducking out of the way of them in the case of Larwood. And Barnes/Tate are only meant to be medium pace anyway.

Spofforth has been marketed as express but you know he wasnt
 
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JOJOXI

International Vice-Captain
Perhaps a slight bias batsman wise for me - I'd definetly consider Hammond/Hobbs/Sutcliffe etc. depending on team composition if they were still available now (and this is with Bradman not eligible in draft too) as well as a few others yet to be chosen but only a handful I'd pick from the bowling. I guess the thing for Spofforth and others is despite pace or lack of it they were successful but it would take a greater level of success for me to justify picking them personally compared to modern players. Although think I would look at an attack differently if it was say Barnes, Tate, Spofforth, Lohmann compared to say Marshall, Steyn, Warne, Barnes where despite Barnes not being rapid he was excellent in his era and contributes to a balanced attack that isn't all one paced.
 
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JOJOXI

International Vice-Captain
Shri: Jacques Kallis, SA, 1990s
kingkallis: Curtley Ambrose, WI, 1980s
JOJOXI: Muttiah Muraliatharan, SL, 1990s
Coronis: Gary Sobers, WI, 1950s
Line and Length: Shane Warne, AUS, 1990s
AndrewB: Kumar Sangakkarra, SL, 2000s
Red Hill: Len Hutton, ENG, 1930s
mr_mister: Sachin Tendulkar, IND, 1980s
honestbharani: Keith Miller, AUS, 1940s
Teuton: Richard Hadlee, NZ, 1970s
morgieb: Glenn McGrath, AUS, 1990s
fuller pilch: Andy Flower, ZIM, 1990s
ataraxia: Imran Khan, PAK, 1970s
trundler: Malcolm Marshall, WI, 1970s

Round 2

trundler: Jack Hobbs, ENG, 1900s
ataraxia: Dale Steyn, SA, 2000s
fuller pilch: Wally Hammond, ENG، 1920s
morgieb: Herb Sutcliffe, ENG, 1920s
Teuton: George Headley, WI, 1930s
honestbharani: Shakib Al-Hassan, BD, 2000s
mr_mister: Wasim Akram, PAK, 1980s
Red Hill: Joel Garner, WI, 1970s
AndrewB: Sydney Barnes, ENG, 1900s
Line and Length: Steve Smith, AUS, 2010s
Coronis: Adam Gilchrist, AUS, 1990s
JOJOXI: Mike Proctor, SA, 1960s
king kallis: Bill O'Reilly, AUS, 1930s
Shri: AB de Villiers, SA, 2000s

Round 3:

morgieb: Dudley Nourse, SA, 1930s
Coronis: Kane Williamson, NZ, 2010s
Teuton: Waqar Younis, PAK, 1980s
JOJOXI: Sunil Gavaskar, IND, 1970s
Red Hill: Alan Davidson, AUS, 1950s
AndrewB: Aubrey Faulkner, SA, 1900s
ataraxia: Clarrie Grimmett, AUS, 1920s
mr_mister: Graeme Pollock, SA, 1960s
Shri: Viv Richards, WI, 1970s
fuller pilch: Mushtaq Mohammed, PAK, 1950s
trundler: Younis Khan, Pak, 2000s
kingkallis: Brian Lara, WI, 1990s
Line and Length: Javed Miandad, Pak, 1970s
honestbharani: Ken Barrington, Eng, 1950s

Round 4:

honestbharani: Ben Stokes, Eng, 2010s
Line and Length: Fred Trueman, Eng, 1950s
kingkallis: Ray Lindwall, AUS, 1940s
trundler: Richie Benaud, AUS, 1950s
fuller pilch: Everton Weekes, WI, 1940s
Shri: Derek Underwood, Eng, 1960s
mr_mister: Hedley Verity, Eng, 1930s
ataraxia: Michael Holding, WI, 1970s
AndrewB: Barry Richards SA, 1970s
Red Hill: Ricky Ponting, Aus, 1990s
JOJOXI: Clyde Walcott, WI, 1940s
Teuton: Mahela Jayawardene, SL, 1990s
Coronis: Allan Donald, SA, 1990s
morgieb: Frank Worrell, WI, 1940s

Round 5:

ataraxia: Martin Crowe, NZ, 1980s
Teuton: Jim Laker, Eng, 1940s
kingkallis: Graeme Smith, SA, 2000s
JOJOXI: Andy Roberts, WI, 1970s
trundle: Virat Kohli, Ind, 2010s
Red Hill: Kapil Dev, Ind, 1970s
fuller pilch: Dennis Lillee, Aus, 1970s
Coronis: Fazel Mahmood, Pak, 1950s
Line and Length: Shaun Pollock, SA, 1990s
honestbharani: Bruce Reid, Aus, 1980s
Shri: Pat Cummins, Aus, 2010s
mr_mister: Harold Larwood, Eng, 1920s
AndrewB: Jack Cowie, NZ, 1930s
morgieb: Shane Bond, NZ, 2000s

Round 6:

morgieb: Jasprit Bumrah, Ind, 2010s
AndrewB: Steve Waugh, Aus, 1980s
mr_mister: Gordon Greenidge, WI, 1970s
Shri: Wes Hall, WI, 1950s
honestbharani: Kagiso Rabada, SA, 2010s
Line and Length: Stewie Dempster, NZ, 1930s
Coronis: Hugh Trumble, AUS, 1890s
fuller pilch: Martin Donnely, NZ, 1930s
Red Hill:
trundle:
JOJOXI:
kingkallis:
Teuton:
ataraxia:
 
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JOJOXI

International Vice-Captain
Next 3 picks: Red Hill, Trundler, JOJOXI - Don't know if Red Hill gets a little leeway with time with Hall and Lohmann situation sticky - if not he's got an hr 6mins until he times out
 
Red

Red

The normal awards that everyone else has
Len Hutton ENG: 1930s
Bruce Mitchell SA: 1920s
Ricky Ponting AUS: 1990s
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Kapil Dev IND: 1970s
Alan Davidson AUS: 1950s
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Joel Garner: WI: 1970s
 
Red

Red

The normal awards that everyone else has
R1
Shri: Jacques Kallis, SA, 1990s
kingkallis: Curtley Ambrose, WI, 1980s
JOJOXI: Muttiah Muraliatharan, SL, 1990s
Coronis: Gary Sobers, WI, 1950s
Line and Length: Shane Warne, AUS, 1990s
AndrewB: Kumar Sangakkarra, SL, 2000s
Red Hill: Len Hutton, ENG, 1930s
mr_mister: Sachin Tendulkar, IND, 1980s
honestbharani: Keith Miller, AUS, 1940s
Teuton: Richard Hadlee, NZ, 1970s
morgieb: Glenn McGrath, AUS, 1990s
fuller pilch: Andy Flower, ZIM, 1990s
ataraxia: Imran Khan, PAK, 1970s
trundler: Malcolm Marshall, WI, 1970s

R2
trundler: Jack Hobbs, ENG, 1900s
ataraxia: Dale Steyn, SA, 2000s
fuller pilch: Wally Hammond, ENG، 1920s
morgieb: Herb Sutcliffe, ENG, 1920s
Teuton: George Headley, WI, 1930s
honestbharani: Shakib Al-Hassan, BD, 2000s
mr_mister: Wasim Akram, PAK, 1980s
Red Hill: Joel Garner, WI, 1970s
AndrewB: Sydney Barnes, ENG, 1900s
Line and Length: Steve Smith, AUS, 2010s
Coronis: Adam Gilchrist, AUS, 1990s
JOJOXI: Mike Proctor, SA, 1960s
king kallis: Bill O'Reilly, AUS, 1930s
Shri: AB de Villiers, SA, 2000s

R3
morgieb: Dudley Nourse, SA, 1930s
Coronis: Kane Williamson, NZ, 2010s
Teuton: Waqar Younis, PAK, 1980s
JOJOXI: Sunil Gavaskar, IND, 1970s
Red Hill: Alan Davidson, AUS, 1950s
AndrewB: Aubrey Faulkner, SA, 1900s
ataraxia: Clarrie Grimmett, AUS, 1920s
mr_mister: Graeme Pollock, SA, 1960s
Shri: Viv Richards, WI, 1970s
fuller pilch: Mushtaq Mohammed, PAK, 1950s
trundler: Younis Khan, Pak, 2000s
kingkallis: Brian Lara, WI, 1990s
Line and Length: Javed Miandad, Pak, 1970s
honestbharani: Ken Barrington, Eng, 1950s

R4
honestbharani: Ben Stokes, Eng, 2010s
Line and Length: Fred Trueman, Eng, 1950s
kingkallis: Ray Lindwall, AUS, 1940s
trundler: Richie Benaud, AUS, 1950s
fuller pilch: Everton Weekes, WI, 1940s
Shri: Derek Underwood, Eng, 1960s
mr_mister: Hedley Verity, Eng, 1930s
ataraxia: Michael Holding, WI, 1970s
AndrewB: Barry Richards SA, 1970s
Red Hill: Ricky Ponting, Aus, 1990s
JOJOXI: Clyde Walcott, WI, 1940s
Teuton: Mahela Jayawardene, SL, 1990s
Coronis: Allan Donald, SA, 1990s
morgieb: Frank Worrell, WI, 1940s

R5
ataraxia: Martin Crowe, NZ, 1980s
Teuton: Jim Laker, Eng, 1940s
kingkallis: Graeme Smith, SA, 2000s
JOJOXI: Andy Roberts, WI, 1970s
trundler: Virat Kohli, Ind, 2010s
Red Hill: Kapil Dev, Ind, 1970s
fuller pilch: Dennis Lillee, Aus, 1970s
Coronis: Fazel Mahmood, Pak, 1950s
Line and Length: Shaun Pollock, SA, 1990s
honestbharani: Bruce Reid, Aus, 1980s
Shri: Pat Cummins, Aus, 2010s
mr_mister: Harold Larwood, Eng, 1920s
AndrewB: Jack Cowie, NZ, 1930s
morgieb: Shane Bond, NZ, 2000s

R6
morgieb: Jasprit Bumrah, Ind, 2010s
AndrewB: Steve Waugh, Aus, 1980s
mr_mister: Gordon Greenidge, WI, 1970s
Shri: Wes Hall, WI, 1950s
honestbharani: Kagiso Rabada, SA, 2010s
Line and Length: Stewie Dempster, NZ, 1930s
Coronis: Hugh Trumble, AUS, 1890s
fuller pilch: Martin Donnely, NZ, 1930s
Red Hill: Bruce Mitchell, SA, 1920s
trundler: Chris Cairns, NZ, 1980s
JOJOXI: Rahul Dravid, IND, 1990s
kingkallis: Ian Botham, Eng, 1970s
Teuton: Victor Trumper, AUS, 1890s
ataraxia: Vijay Merchant, IND, 1930s

R7
fuller pilch
mr_mister
kingkallis
trundler
honestbharani
JOJOXI
ataraxia
Red Hill
Teuton
Coronis
AndrewB
Line and Length
morgieb
Shri
 
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Fuller Pilch

Hall of Fame Member
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Everton Weekes 40s WI
Wally Hammond 20s E
Martin Donnelly 30s NZ
Andy Flower 90s Z
Mushtaq Mohammed 50s P
Ravi Ashwin 2010s I
Dennis Lillee 70s A
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That's 7 countries and 7 decades sorted
 
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JOJOXI

International Vice-Captain
Fuller Pilch said:
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Everton Weekes 40s WI
Wally Hammond 20s E
Martin Donnelly 30s NZ
Andy Flower 90s Z
Mushtaq Mohammed 50s P
Ravi Ashwin 2010s I
Dennis Lillee 70s A
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That's 7 countries and 7 decades sorted
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Look to be in good shape with a lot of freedom over your final picks, interesting to see the distinctively different approaches being taken in this draft
 
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