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'Beating India in India bigger than Ashes'
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Cevno
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Has 3 tests too according to this-
Cricket schedule 2011 : India, England, Australia, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, South Africa, New Zealand, West Indies & Bangladesh. -> Itsonlycricket, is only cricket!
Still not fully clear though.
Flem274*
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Correct. Not the multi of anyone major though, just a random I think.
And vcs, there was a reason everyone left that joke.
Howe_zat
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Blaze 18
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What he probably meant was that it'd be a tad harder for England to beat the current Indian side in India than the current Australian side in Australia. From a purely emotional POV, I think it's a no-contest. I am sure most England fans would much rather have England lose to us and beat Australia than the other way around.
Furball
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We're over for a 5 match ODI series later in the year. We've got an "away" tour of Pakistan and a tour of Sri Lanka coming up this winter.
Austerlitz
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Only tad?
Last time we lost a series at home was 2004 vs aus 2-1.
Before that 1997 i think vs SA .
In india tbh i really only fear steyn's first spell on the first day and high quality grafters like amla a little.
And thats not chest pumping just being honest.
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Bun
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Exactly..Only tad?
Last time we lost a series at home was 2004 vs aus 2-1.
Before that 1997 i think vs SA .
In india tbh i really only fear steyn's first spell on the first day and high quality grafters like amla a little.
And thats not chest pumping just being honest.
even when at their direst best (90s here's looking at you) India still remained largely a team to beat at home... and since 2004 has simply been unbeatable...
Blaze 18
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Australia's home record has been quite impressive too ( they have only lost a series each to South Africa and England since the mid 90s or something, if I'm not mistaken), but yeah, that was because of their all-time great side. You're right - it was probably an understatement. Beating the current Indian side in India would be more than a tad harder than beating the current Australian side in Australia, especially for a non-subcontinental side. That being said, I don't think we'll see Australia play as poorly as they did in the Ashes in the near future. I expect them to win more often that not at home. Also, it's worth pointing out that Zaheer, Tendulkar, Laxman (and even Sehwag) may all be gone by the time England next play tests in India (no idea when that is FTR). Assuming that happens, the balance will once again tilt in favour of Australia.Only tad?
Last time we lost a series at home was 2004 vs aus 2-1.
Before that 1997 i think vs SA .
In india tbh i really only fear steyn's first spell on the first day and high quality grafters like amla a little.
And thats not chest pumping just being honest.
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Riggins
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is that jaques kallis??Yeah good point. Obvious trolling.
Burgey
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Nah. India couldn't win a series her in 85-86 or 77-78 ffs.
Jono
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Those Indian teams were far from great, and we're not talking about India's away strength. Australia still lost series at home when their team was crap didn't they?
We're talking India's home strength vs. Australia's home strength over the years.
Australia have been a far far far better team in recent times, but its not crazy to suggest that touring teams handle Australian conditions better than Indian conditions (and this goes further than just pitches - heat, food, culture shock etc.).
India's home record in the 90s and early 2000s is disproportional to the strength of the team. It had a ****load of weak links. But it got by through having tough conditions.
Obviously the greater number of tours to India and IPL is changing that.
We're talking India's home strength vs. Australia's home strength over the years.
Australia have been a far far far better team in recent times, but its not crazy to suggest that touring teams handle Australian conditions better than Indian conditions (and this goes further than just pitches - heat, food, culture shock etc.).
India's home record in the 90s and early 2000s is disproportional to the strength of the team. It had a ****load of weak links. But it got by through having tough conditions.
Obviously the greater number of tours to India and IPL is changing that.
Burgey
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Not really it isn't. India, Pakistan and SL have never won a series in Australia. I think SA won their first here three years back. NZ have one once. History suggests the idea of India historically being harder to play in than Australia for touring teams is an utter myth. It was, I'm sure, a far less pleasant place to tour in the old days (talking way back here) but not harder.
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Howe_zat
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Yes, but the point here is that India (and Sri Lanka) are disproporitionatly better at home than away, whereas with Australia it's been much closer to the strength of the team.
In the mid 1980s Australia didn't win any of 6 home series from 1984 to 1989 - inculding losing twice to NZ, losing to England and drawing with India - but then didn't lose one for 15 years in the 90s and 2000s.
In the mid 1980s Australia didn't win any of 6 home series from 1984 to 1989 - inculding losing twice to NZ, losing to England and drawing with India - but then didn't lose one for 15 years in the 90s and 2000s.
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Bun
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I believe Strauss was talking abt the recent present than way past.