Why swearing? Is it really worse to say "you can't ****ing bat" than "you can't bat"? Seems a pretty pointless distinction to me. The fact is, if you want to enforce something like this as a rule, it has to be clearly defined. If you ban swearing, people will sledge without swearing. If you ban insults, how do you define what an insult is?C_C said:
How is that? England and the West Indies sledged through the 70s and 80s as well. Some of them are renowned for it. Certainly Ian Chappell and Steve Waugh have the worst reputations as captains, but 90% of that comes from the fact that they were simply honest about it. They embraced sledging as one of many tactics they could implement to attempt to gain a mental advantage over the opposition. Othe teams did that too, they just didn't talk about it.C_C said:
Nonsense. Half the England batsmen have usually been public school boys over the years, and they play the game as tough and as rough as anybody else. Professional sport is no place for wallflowers, and if they have lead a sheltered life they soon grow up (or become estate agents).C_C said:
To me, anything beyond the good ol 'its red, its round and it weighs 4 ounces' followed by ' you know what it looks like...now go find it' is abusive.KaZoH0lic said:
EDIT: Ignore post. Misread the quote.C_C said:well i am against throwing the ball at batsmen as well.
I simply do not like the pervasive escalating hostility in cricket.....people should remember that this is just a fricking GAME. Not life and death. And the ones who treat it as life and death need a chillpill
Yes, it is worse to say 'you cant ****ing bat'.
Mate, the WI sledged once in a blue moon, unlike the OZ who sledge constantly.
Well by that definition, pointing a gun to your head would certainly be *THE* test of mental toughness. I am sure that would be justified.
Yeah fair enough, I misread your post.C_C said:
Counter my argument with argument mate.KaZoH0lic said:
The irony is that you've lost all perspective here. As you said, it's a game. Murdering someone? Um, physically abusing someone? See where you went again? We're talking of the characteristics of competitive sports. Whether you like it or not it will remain. The forms can vary, it will always be there. Unless some nut actually shares your reasoning and manages to make the game very 'friendly'. Soft ball, plastic bat. No spikes on shoes...etc.C_C said:
No, i implied that if 'mental disintegration' is the objective, ie, to mentally affect a player, i am sure a threat about decapitation with the ball is much less effective than the threat of strafing a guy with an automatic rifle after the match.Jamee999 said:
I don't need to counter you, I just reply to you to fuel you. You obviously haven't much experience in the sporting arena, or for that matter, a hostile environment. I'm lost as to which cricketer has shown inklings of saying "gonna shove an AK 47 up his rear end after the match". I'm lost, I thought this was cricket?C_C said:Counter my argument with argument mate.
Tell me why swearing and sledging should have a place in the sport.
Perhaps 'keep your yap shut, keep yer head down and let your bat or ball do the talking' is a philosophy thats lost on you ?
Where do you draw the line and why.
Next time a bowler threatens batsman by saying he's gonna shove an AK 47 up his rear end after the match, i guess that too is a part of 'mental disintegration'.
Is tennis competetive ?
Whether you like it or not, it remains because of this kind of justifications and apathy shown towards it.
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