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Norwood's on Fire
He’s having a dig at Australia, but India won here in 2007 anyway
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4th Test (Old Trafford, Manchester) - 23rd to 27th of July
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LangleyburyCCPlayer
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They won the 3-match series 2007
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mackembhoy
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Yeah fair I'll shut up
Nah even he was saying on the mic that it was embarrassing that Sundar was not shaking his hand. What's embarrassing, Mr. Crawley, is coming 90 seconds late just because you were scared that the world's best bowler was about to eat you for breakfast. What makes me fume is that India let him get away and make 80 odd. Other than the fact that he's from the Southeast and he has an aristocrat father who's mates with Rob Key, I can think of nothing else going his way.
That said, despite the poor behavior from England, I respect Joe Root a lot, even when he was captain. Always took the high road even in treacherous times.
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Shady Slim
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amazing india!!!!
Son Of Coco
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Yeah, Engerlund typically graceless whilst saving test match cricket.
The only reason they were facing Brook and Root is because England's 'frontline' bowlers achieved 9/10ths of **** all for 5 hours.
Shady Slim
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no way that’s genuine floppery
grow up and roll out better pitches if you don’t want jadeja to dogwalk your bowling on day five
LangleyburyCCPlayer
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In fairness, the issue with pitches isn’t on Stokes, he’s wanted fast bouncy wickets for some time, what he’s ended up getting is, erm, not quite that!
Shady Slim
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that’d help your guys get ready for australia tbf and it would play to stokes and archer’s strengths
but it would feel so strange for england to become renowned for pitches like that!
Son Of Coco
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He's got red hair, so that's a given.
Son Of Coco
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Selecting him would probably be the easiest way to get him in there.
LangleyburyCCPlayer
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There was a fair bit of rain before this Test (probably the reason why we didn’t see as many issues with the ball as we did in the first three Tests) but it’s been an unusually dry summer here which is probably the biggest reason we are seeing these pitches
Son Of Coco
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He was asking for this for The Ashes in 2023.
It's almost like the natural conditions in the UK don't support that kind of pitch being ordered like you're at Maccas getting a cheeseburger. Either that, or the groundsmen are strongly anti-Stokes and just ****ing it up on purpose.
Johan
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After the Edgbaston road, McCullum asked for "“Something with a bit more pace, a bit more bounce, and maybe a little bit of sideways, hopefully.” and there was sideways at Lord's but no real pace or bounce, and we all saw Old Trafford. I don't think there is much the curators can even do at this point.
Son Of Coco
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Yeah, I'm sure there isn't. The danger of trying to manufacture the pitches you want instead of playing with what you've got is you potentially bring the away team into it a bit more by giving them something closer to what they are used to. England's biggest strength at home (like all home teams) has always been their familiarity with the conditions. I don't really get what they'd gain by changing those conditions to follow Stokes' plan, although I suppose they think it will help both their bats and bowlers. I don't think Australia were overly intimidated when it was suggested these be the pitches for 2023 though. Our bowlers would have enjoyed it.
Obviously other factors play into the types of pitches produced too, like the weather conditions leading up to the matches etc.
We played on a pitch many years ago that was next to a river, and when the tide was in, the bowlers seemed to get more movement out of it than when the tide was out. I am not sure if it was just an illusion brought about by the tales told about this, or if it was actually true. It was Palm Beach Currumbin's home ground on the Gold Coast, so if it was true, Mark Wood played for that club at one stage, and he would have been a ****ing nightmare bowling there at high tide.
So yeah, pitch prep in some places seems to involve an element of witchcraft with a sprinkling of astrology.
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the big bambino
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Yesterday?
I think Crawley was the cause of England getting two warnings for the way the ball was thrown in to the keeper