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4th Test at Old Trafford, Manchester

morgieb

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Either way, they'll have to bat 10-12 overs before close of play today I think. So 100 or so overs to survive in the 4th innings. Not very likely to happen.
Depends on how much Australia set. I think England can chase up to 375 off 110 overs, so I wouldn't declare before about 200. Could also see England taking some quick wickets, only two of our batsman excude any degree of confidence and even they might be due a failure....
 

Burgey

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They *could* chase 375 off 110 overs but it would require Australia to bowl worse than they have all series and on a day five deck
 

Spark

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Depends on how much Australia set. I think England can chase up to 375 off 110 overs, so I wouldn't declare before about 200. Could also see England taking some quick wickets, only two of our batsman excude any degree of confidence and even they might be due a failure....
On what basis do you see England going at 3.5 an over for four sessions
 

morgieb

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Surprised he didn't go for the short stuff, but the yorker looked the better wicket-taking option. Food for Cummins's thought....
 

morgieb

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On what basis do you see England going at 3.5 an over for four sessions
I just get the feeling that they're the sort of batting lineup that could trhive in a one-day like situation.

Don't get me wrong, it's very unlikely. But memories from Leeds dies hard....
 

Spark

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I just get the feeling that they're the sort of batting lineup that could trhive in a one-day like situation.

Don't get me wrong, it's very unlikely. But memories from Leeds dies hard....
This is not a one-day like situation. This is Day 4 of a Test match.
 

morgieb

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This is not a one-day like situation. This is Day 4 of a Test match.
Talking Day 5 though.

It's a moot point anyway as Australia probably go slower if a couple of quick wickets fall or they hit their way to 400 which would be nigh on impossible to chase on Day 5 rather than merely very unlikely.
 

Spark

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Talking Day 5 though.

It's a moot point anyway as Australia probably go slower if a couple of quick wickets fall or they hit their way to 400 which would be nigh on impossible to chase on Day 5 rather than merely very unlikely.
I mean that just accentuates the point. England didn't chase down 360 on a day 5 wicket at Leeds, nor did they play it like a one-day chase. They played it like a Test match, which meant slow going for a long time.
 

stephen

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That was definitely a case of the umpire should have given it and forced the batsmen to review.
 

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