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2020/21 New Zealand Domestic Season

kaetor

U19 Cricketer
Will Young's two dismissals again a little worrying. I rate him still, but any bowlers nipping it in are really gonna lick their lips against him.
 

jcas0167

International Debutant
Luke Georgeson who was part of the 2018 under 19 WC side bowling well for Wellington. Hopefully he can get some runs opening the batting tomorrow.
 

jcas0167

International Debutant
Looks like a good effort by Hawkes Bay to retain the Hawke Cup against
Hamilton. Jayden Lennox bowling well again with 4 wickets in the first innings including the big wicket of Devcich. Wiggins hitting a ton in the second innings as they won by 8 wickets.
 

SteveNZ

Cricketer Of The Year
Will Young's two dismissals again a little worrying. I rate him still, but any bowlers nipping it in are really gonna lick their lips against him.
Kippax sitting quietly in a darkened room somewhere, stroking a black cat, saying 'ahh yes, the minions are onto it now...'

To be fair he's been saying it for months, that Young plays around his front pad. And it looks like a significant technical flaw that international attacks in particular are going to run all over.
 

Kippax

Cricketer Of The Year

Otago will be missing two of its best players for perhaps the rest of the season.

Experienced seam bowler Jacob Duffy picked up a low-grade quad strain during the 188-run loss to Canterbury at Hagley Oval.

He is a possible starter for Otago’s final game of the season which is against Northern Districts in Dunedin early next month.

But all-rounder Nathan Smith fractured a bone in his hand on Saturday and will miss the remaining three games.
 

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
Kippax sitting quietly in a darkened room somewhere, stroking a black cat, saying 'ahh yes, the minions are onto it now...'

To be fair he's been saying it for months, that Young plays around his front pad. And it looks like a significant technical flaw that international attacks in particular are going to run all over.
Yeah, if KW is absent for the first test, you'd have to suspect that Anderson's inswinger is going to be giving Young's front pad a fair working over.
 

Kippax

Cricketer Of The Year


One wonders if Malan (fearful of his next Finn Allen getting away on him....) is going to give Adi Ashok a run vs. Canterbury at Eden Park in R7, seeing we'd be in the optimum autumn conditions for that to be done, and the Aces are already quite a sizable 36 pts adrift of Canterbury's lead.

He only needs to drop a fellow South African who just took 7/88 and a (very soft) hat-trick, or Somerville, to give all you youth/novelty seekers what you crave. Or get it really dusty up there and get rid of one of their trundler anons.
 
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Flem274*

123/5
Yeah, if KW is absent for the first test, you'd have to suspect that Anderson's inswinger is going to be giving Young's front pad a fair working over.
yeah i really don't like nzs desire to make him open. he bats like a kane/ross hybrid. #4 at the highest, #3 in an emergency.
 

Immenso

International Vice-Captain
Younghusband playing as a specialist bowler in T20s and a specialist bat in FC is rather odd.
I'd class that Napier pitch as disappointingly green for March.

Ajaz didn't bowl first innings.
Younghusband and M Bracewell didn't bowl first innings.

No spin at all until the fag end of the 3rd innings of the match, when Bracewell and Younghusband came on to bowl 4 overs each during the declaration batting stage.

Fun match, though.

But for development's sake, with crap scheduling of Plunket Shield, need the March pitches to be quite different to the November pitches.
 

hendrix

Hall of Fame Member
yeah i really don't like nzs desire to make him open. he bats like a kane/ross hybrid. #4 at the highest, #3 in an emergency.
I don't think we need to make anyone open.

Pick the best performing domestic opener to bat with Latham and be done with it. They might do ok, they might do crap, they might average low 30s which is fine. Got 4-5 other middle order slots and 2 opener slots so not really sure why there's this obsession with converting high talent batsmen to openers.

Will Young/Conway/whatever of the other domestic middle order bats vie for whatever permanent (Taylor retirement) or injury slots crop up.

In any case Tom Blundell, Jeet Raval are two OK enough openers. Even Rutherford looks to be having a decent season - just pick whoever is doing OK rather than wasting a middle order bat.
 
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ataraxia

International Coach
I'd class that Napier pitch as disappointingly green for March.

Ajaz didn't bowl first innings.
Younghusband and M Bracewell didn't bowl first innings.

No spin at all until the fag end of the 3rd innings of the match, when Bracewell and Younghusband came on to bowl 4 overs each during the declaration batting stage.

Fun match, though.

But for development's sake, with crap scheduling of Plunket Shield, need the March pitches to be quite different to the November pitches.
Bracewell did bring himself on for 3 cheap overs at the end of CD's first innings.

When Younghusband has played FC this season he always seems to bowl a lot less than Bracewell, which is strange.
 

SteveNZ

Cricketer Of The Year
I don't think we need to make anyone open.

Pick the best performing domestic opener to bat with Latham and be done with it. They might do ok, they might do crap, they might average low 30s which is fine. Got 4-5 other middle order slots and 2 opener slots so not really sure why there's this obsession with converting high talent batsmen to openers.

Will Young/Conway/whatever of the other domestic middle order bats vie for whatever permanent (Taylor retirement) or injury slots crop up.

In any case Tom Blundell, Jeet Raval are two OK enough openers. Even Rutherford looks to be having a decent season - just pick whoever is doing OK rather than wasting a middle order bat.
Blundell is going to be the No.7 post WTC probably, presuming Watling will retire and coach. Raval isn't going to be reselected unless he's scoring a mountain of runs, and Rutherford's days are probably numbered too. Then Ravindra was moved down to 6-7 in a move that looked purposeful in terms of grooming him to be a middle order bat and spin option.

I reckon they'll try and shoehorn Young into opening and I agree it's the wrong move. Kane/Conway/Nicholls/Young/Blundell anywhere other than the subcontinent, then drop Young for Ravindra. Then mind you, I don't know who I'd open with
 

Mike5181

International Captain
I don't think we need to make anyone open.

Pick the best performing domestic opener to bat with Latham and be done with it. They might do ok, they might do crap, they might average low 30s which is fine. Got 4-5 other middle order slots and 2 opener slots so not really sure why there's this obsession with converting high talent batsmen to openers.

Will Young/Conway/whatever of the other domestic middle order bats vie for whatever permanent (Taylor retirement) or injury slots crop up.

In any case Tom Blundell, Jeet Raval are two OK enough openers. Even Rutherford looks to be having a decent season - just pick whoever is doing OK rather than wasting a middle order bat.
This approach sounds great on the surface until you realize your second best bat (Devon Conway) is sitting on the bench and running water to Hamish Rutherford in the starting XI.
 

kaetor

U19 Cricketer
Hard choice. Has Blundell done enough opening? Would any other domestic openers actually do any better than him? Would we rather just have Conway open, and accept that it's not his natural position? He might do better than anybody else anyway.

Assuming Ross and BJ retire, my top order would probably look like
- Latham
- Conway
- Williamson
- Young
- Nicholls
- Mitchell
- Blundell / Cleaver

Or you could try get Blundell to keep opening as well as take gloves, and play both Conway and Young and middle order. Bold choice though.
 

Flem274*

123/5
it's up in the air until we have more information. will any of ross, bj, cdg and wagner retire after the wtc? will blundell bat gud in england? will conway be allowed back into nz if he leaves the country? can we get away with 6 batsmen or do we need an allrounder? will rachin score some runs?

if all 4 players above retire, i think by the end of next summer the home team will be;

latham
ravindra
williamson (c)
conway
nicholls
mitchell/young
blundell (wk)
jamieson
southee
ferguson/ajaz
boult
 

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