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Old 10-09-2011, 04:43 AM   #76 (permalink)
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Argentina #14, and the one with half a dozen names (Lobbe?) were superb I thought. Armitage was good for your English.
Kept his head too, more impressively. Sort of bloke who can start a fight staring into his shaving mirror.
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Is it bad of me to always be thinking whether Armitage shanks it? When he kicks, obviously.

Who was man of the match in the end, by the way?
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We were crap but won. Argies will knock the Sweaties out.
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Old 10-09-2011, 06:36 AM   #79 (permalink)
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Is it bad of me to always be thinking whether Armitage shanks it? When he kicks, obviously.

Who was man of the match in the end, by the way?
*Groans*

& I don't know, but has to be Youngs if there's a god in heaven. Made the difference when he came on.

Tindall at inside isn't working either; his first instinct is to take contact and (whilst better than Hape's) hasn't got a test kicking game.

It's no coincidence Wilkinson has always looked a better player when he's had a thinking #12 outside him. His old mucker Will Greenwood (who knows a thing or two about playing #12, despite wearing 13) reckons Toby Flood is the best inside centre in the country, so that could be an option.
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wtf, horrible kicking.
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wtf, horrible kicking.
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Lawes has been cited for the knee to Ledesma. WC over? Odd bit of thuggery aside, I thought he was awesome against the Argies.
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Old 11-09-2011, 11:16 PM   #83 (permalink)
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Good call. I thought he could easily have pulled out of that one. Mind you, probably not as blatant as Quade Cooper's recent knee to Richie McCaw, and he got off scott free, so expect no censure to come from it.
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I think in general, England were much better in possession than people are giving credit for. I'm not saying they were good, but when the ball was recycled for a few phases, rather then Wilkinson just threading a kick through, we looked just about alright.
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Good call. I thought he could easily have pulled out of that one. Mind you, probably not as blatant as Quade Cooper's recent knee to Richie McCaw, and he got off scott free, so expect no censure to come from it.
Cite worthy at the very least. Agree that Cooper's was worse as it looked deliberate and snide, but big Courts was at best clumsy and a 19st lock kneeing you in the head is more likely to do so serious damage than a milksop 5/8.

My guess is that he'll get two games.

Our next two games being Georgia and Romania, of course.
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Cite worthy at the very least. Agree that Cooper's was worse as it looked deliberate and snide, but big Courts was at best clumsy and a 19st lock kneeing you in the head is more likely to do so serious damage than a milksop 5/8.

My guess is that he'll get two games.

Our next two games being Georgia and Romania, of course.
I wasn't particulary enamoured with his late challenge minutes before that's taken an Argentine player out of the Cup, but it's harder to claim he could have pulled out of that one. And yeah, agree with your view on Cooper's knee. Richie just looked a bit peeved to get a knee in the face, as opposed to being clean knocked out by it.
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Reportedly if Lawes is found guilty, he'll face a minimum of three weeks' suspension. He certainly didn't intend to knock out Ledesma - his knee striking wasn't deliberate unlike Cooper on McCaw - so it'll be interesting if hes suspended.
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Bah - Cooper on McCaw was compeltely accidental - same way McCaw playing halfback for the opposition is accidental.
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So despite the offence holding a penalty of between 3 and 12 weeks, Lawes has got off with 2 weeks which is a little odd; I don't think he deserved much more than 2 weeks though thats interesting they've somewhat bended the rules for him.
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So despite the offence holding a penalty of between 3 and 12 weeks, Lawes has got off with 2 weeks which is a little odd; I don't think he deserved much more than 2 weeks though thats interesting they've somewhat bended the rules for him.
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My guess is that he'll get two games.

Our next two games being Georgia and Romania, of course.
Nostra-****ing-damus, me.

Nah, was a painfully obvious fudge just waiting to happen. Lawes gets the token slap on the wrist and we cop it sweet because he'll be back for when he's needed.
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