Official - Road to Ashes 2023

[ataraxia]

yes we'd quite like a 5 test series pretty please

 

[Son Of Coco]

You have been blessed with some incredible talent during the last 35 years and that just is what it is, but aside from that I'd say mental approach has been the biggest difference between the sides during that period?

We've certainly had players with good technique (at least at the start of a series) who have flopped, whereas your guys very rarely have.

I think it's pretty easy for the pressure to quickly become overbearing on an overseas tour, especially if you come into it with a poor record for a few series prior. I'd suspect it doesn't take much for an attitude of 'here we go again' to set in. Particularly these days when there is little time to acclimatise.

I just hope Joe Root continues to get hit in the jatz crackers on regular occasions in Australia because it is hilarious.

 

[ashley bach]

Only 102 days to go, it's gonna be wild.

 

[Line and Length]

Who will be the openers in the Aussie squad? I'm assuming no Warner and that Head will return to number 5 if possible. I have a feeling that Khawaja will be joined by two of Harris, Whiteman and Bancroft.

 

[Prince EWS]

Who will be the openers in the Aussie squad? I'm assuming no Warner and that Head will return to number 5 if possible. I have a feeling that Khawaja will be joined by two of Harris, Whiteman and Bancroft.

Renshaw will probably be there.

 

[Burgey]

Who will be the openers in the Aussie squad? I'm assuming no Warner and that Head will return to number 5 if possible. I have a feeling that Khawaja will be joined by two of Harris, Whiteman and Bancroft.

Wardy has a couple of games to make something of a run of it, but I think he hasn't had as good a year as he needed to get ont he plane.

Whiteman is a gun. Hope he gets a gig.

 

[Nintendo]

I would have picked woakes if Robinson wasn't around, but right now england's gonna most likely play 2 of broad-anderson-robinson+one of wood/archer/stone+ spinner + stokes. Woakes is in that Robinson category and he's fourth choice option there, even with his record in England.

 

[honestbharani]

I don't quite agree with your reasons here. The overhead conditions at Hobart, especially on the first day, were about as close as you'll get to English conditions.

There are a couple of crucial differences. Firstly, English pitches are slower and more variable which could throw his timing off.

The other one is the Dukes Ball. When that was used in the Sheffield Shield (the WI version I believe) it was still swinging in the 40th over and bowlers who rarely swung it much before were hooping it about. Michael Neser's ascendency came during this period. Plus it moves off the seam more. I think that in interaction with the surface determining wear is as important as the overheads.

During 2019, thanks to a combination of less grassy pitches than 2015 and another misguided ECB experiment at reducing the size of the seam, I thought there was conspicuously little swing compared to what I expected, even accounting for Anderson breaking down early.

I thought they were using the 2018 batch of Dukes for the 2019 Ashes?

 

[Starfighter]

I thought they were using the 2018 batch of Dukes for the 2019 Ashes?

Nope. That was the plan, but apparently they didn't have enough.

 

[honestbharani]

I honestly do think Anderson willl make a difference in this Ashes. Him not being there and playing a vastly depleted attack first test were major reasons Aussies were so competitive last time, AFAIC.

 

[Brook's side]

I would have picked woakes if Robinson wasn't around, but right now england's gonna most likely play 2 of broad-anderson-robinson+one of wood/archer/stone+ spinner + stokes. Woakes is in that Robinson category and he's fourth choice option there, even with his record in England.

Not exactly like for like but SCurran might be ahead of Woakes as well.

 

[Gob]

Apologies, will try and make it simpler for you in future (actually, I'll just ignore you). Starting to realise that communication isn't one of your strengths.

Tolerating stupidity is not my strength

 

[Howe_zat]

I would have picked woakes if Robinson wasn't around, but right now england's gonna most likely play 2 of broad-anderson-robinson+one of wood/archer/stone+ spinner + stokes. Woakes is in that Robinson category and he's fourth choice option there, even with his record in England.

Yeah seriously doubt that Woakes will get a gig in this series unless there's an injury crisis. And going forward they seem pretty keen on Potts and Mahmood as prospects so Woakes' test career could well be done altogether now

 

[Line and Length]

Not exactly like for like but SCurran might be ahead of Woakes as well.

Only in white ball cricket.

 

[Brook's side]

Only in white ball cricket.

Let's say India next winter. There's been a few injuries. There's one place left for a seam bowler. Stokes and Baz have Scurran and Woakes to choose from.

They're picking Sam.

 

[Gob]

Renshaw will probably be there.

His credibility fell of a cliff here tbh. Its not just he did not made many but how abject he looked. He was certain to be Warner's replacement.

Not sure who should open in England now but certainly should not be Head. Maybe take one of the new guys like Hunt or Street or Ward. Anyone but the likes of Harris/Bancroft for me. Pukovsky was a huge loss

 

[FBU]

I would have picked woakes if Robinson wasn't around, but right now england's gonna most likely play 2 of broad-anderson-robinson+one of wood/archer/stone+ spinner + stokes. Woakes is in that Robinson category and he's fourth choice option there, even with his record in England.

I think the 6 bowlers will be Anderson, Broad, Robinson, Archer, Wood, Stokes and they won't be rotating bowlers. Last time Broad (5) 23 wickets), Archer (4) 22 wickets, Woakes (4) 10 wickets.

If it is Robinson, Broad, Archer I imagine it will stay that way unless they do a lot of bowling and someone needs a rest or is injured.

 

[Burgey]

I think the 6 bowlers will be Anderson, Broad, Robinson, Archer, Wood, Stokes and they won't be rotating bowlers. Last time Broad (5) 23 wickets), Archer (4) 22 wickets, Woakes (4) 10 wickets.

If it is Robinson, Broad, Archer I imagine it will stay that way unless they do a lot of bowling and someone needs a rest or is injured.

How will they fit Anderson, Broad, Archer, Leach and Robinson into the same team? Is that on the basis Bairstow comes back into the top six and keeps? Leaves a very long tail

 

[Prince EWS]

How will they fit Anderson, Broad, Archer, Leach and Robinson into the same team? Is that on the basis Bairstow comes back into the top six and keeps? Leaves a very long tail

It reads to me like FBU is suggesting Anderson won't play at full strength, which is nuts.

I think they will do a bit of rotating tbh. Would make sense to to rotate Anderson/Broad/Robinson for the opening bowler spots and Archer/Wood for the first change spot, injuries pending. Maybe play all three of the opening bowlers at Headingly.

 

[GIMH]

It reads to me like FBU is suggesting Anderson won't play at full strength, which is nuts.

I think they will do a bit of rotating tbh. Would make sense to to rotate Anderson/Broad/Robinson for the opening bowler spots and Archer/Wood for the first change spot, injuries pending. Maybe play all three of the opening bowlers at Headingly.

Anderson will be rested for the 4th and 5th Tests with us 3-0 up