Dennis Lillee vs Imran Khan

[PlayerComparisons]

Curious to see how this goes since I think the consensus is that both of these are better than Wasim but not in the top 5

 

[subshakerz]

Imran.

- Better across countries
- Better peak
- Better against WI
- Better in WSC

 

[Line and Length]

A bit unfair to compare an ATG all rounder and an ATG fast bowler.

For sheer impact on the game and setting new standards in fast bowling I lean towards DKL.

 

[Nintendo]

A bit unfair to compare an ATG all rounder and an ATG fast bowler.

For sheer impact on the game and setting new standards in fast bowling I lean towards DKL.

What does niddas trophy hero Dinesh Karthik have to do with this
Stay on topic please!

 

[Coronis]

A bit unfair to compare an ATG all rounder and an ATG fast bowler.

For sheer impact on the game and setting new standards in fast bowling I lean towards DKL.

Well I mean he clearly says in the title purely as bowlers. Imran’s batting and captaincy shouldn’t factor at all.

 

[honestbharani]

As a bowler, Lillee. As a cricketer, Imran.

 

[Kirkut]

Imran Khan, got wickets everywhere although he went super saiyan in the subcontinent.

Lillee was super saiyan on seamer friendly wickets but cannot say the same on slow abrasive subcontinental wickets.

 

[Kirkut]

But then the sample size for Lillee's performance in the subcontinent is too small to warrant him to be a "seaming track bully". Hard to come at a conclusion as to who's better.

 

[ankitj]

Voted Imran Khan

 

[Red]

I think Marshall and McGrath are the best quicks of all time, but I still think DK is the greatest

 

[ankitj]

Lillee tends to get credit for being the prototype for modern great fast bowlers. Why doesn't Fred Trueman get same credit? He was fiery and aggressive and had stats that would satisfy any modern benchmark (avg, SR, wpm, longevity all very impressive)

 

[Starfighter]

Lillee tends to get credit for being the prototype for modern great fast bowlers. Why doesn't Fred Trueman get same credit? He was fiery and aggressive and had stats that would satisfy any modern benchmark (avg, SR, wpm, longevity all very impressive)

Older era when there was less telly coverage and image wasn't as influential. Lillee was the first tv celebrity fast bowler.

 

[Migara]

Curious to see how this goes since I think the consensus is that both of these are better than Wasim but not in the top 5

Wasim is better than Lillee, and Imran is better than Wasim. So Imran with a margin.

 

[Migara]

A bit unfair to compare an ATG all rounder and an ATG fast bowler.

For sheer impact on the game and setting new standards in fast bowling I lean towards DKL.

That is like saying Shane Warne re invented legspin.

 

[Aritro]

Lillee tends to get credit for being the prototype for modern great fast bowlers. Why doesn't Fred Trueman get same credit? He was fiery and aggressive and had stats that would satisfy any modern benchmark (avg, SR, wpm, longevity all very impressive)

Yeah the guy flies massively under the radar these days.

 

[Slifer]

Yeah the guy flies massively under the radar these days.

Probably because of the disparity between his home and away stats relative to other ATGs. I'm not saying I support that pov. Just an observation. But imo he is most definitely an ATG.

 

[Nikhil99.94]

Lillee tends to get credit for being the prototype for modern great fast bowlers. ((Why doesn't Fred Trueman get same credit?)) He was fiery and aggressive and had stats that would satisfy any modern benchmark (avg, SR, wpm, longevity all very impressive)

Lindwall was probably better than trueman,larwood is the one after whom most judge fast bowlers by,had better bouncer than Marshall+was unquestionably one of the fastest of all time and is still one of the immortal fast bowlers to have ever lived.Larwood still has higher aura/reputation than any fast bowler ,till dk lillee era.

 

[subshakerz]

But then the sample size for Lillee's performance in the subcontinent is too small to warrant him to be a "seaming track bully". Hard to come at a conclusion as to who's better.

Lillee is still unproven on the subcontinent and WI versus Imran who was proven successful in both.

 

[subshakerz]

Imran did better than Lillee versus WI despite Lillee playing almost all tests in his backyard.

 

[subshakerz]

For sheer impact on the game and setting new standards in fast bowling I lean towards DKL.

Lillee and Roberts popularized fast bowling in the 70s but I would argue Imran as a bowler had more direct impact when it comes to mastering reverse swing and starting a pace revolution in Pakistan.