Ascending Average Draft (Tests) - Voting Thread

[trundler]

With a twist! Choose the top 2 teams from each group.

Group 1: JOJOXI, Red Hill, Ankitj, Mr_mister, KingKallis

JOJOXI:

1. Geoffrey Boycott
2. Virender Sehwag
3. Sachin Tendulkar
4. Mahela Jayawardene
5. Dudley Nourse
6. Aravinda de Silva
7. Brendon McCullum +
8. Kapil Dev
9. Tim Southee
10. Shane Warne
11. Waqar Younis

Red Hill CC:

Desmond Haynes
Mark Taylor *
Viv Richards
Greg Chappell
Ernest Tyldesley
Eddie Paynter
Godfrey Evans +
Harold Larwood
Graeme Swann
Dennis Lillee
Bruce Reid

Ankitj:

Bill Ponsford
Conrad Hunte
Ricky Ponting (c)
George Headley
Doug Walters
Shakib Al Hasan [5]
Imtiaz Ahmed +
Richard Hadlee [1]
Jack Cowie [3]
Stuart MacGill [4]
Courtney Walsh [2]

mr_mister:

Graham Gooch *
Matthew Hayden
Wally Hammond 6
Neil Harvey
Martin Crowe
Ian Botham 4
Jack Gregory 3
Don Tallon +
Michael Holding 2
Lance Gibbs 5
Neil Adcoc.k 1

CricZo XI (KingKallis)

Hanif Mohammad /
Justin Langer /
Ian Chappell /
Graham Thorpe /
Gary Sobers / o
Ben Stokes / o
Richie Benaud o / (c)
Rod Marsh + /
Kagiso Rabada o
James Anderson o
Brett Schultz o
​

Group 2: Fuller Pilch, Marcuss, Trundler, StephenZA

FullerPilch:

G. Greenidge
M. Richardson
M. Labuschagne 6
K. Sangakkara*
S. Chanderpaul
A.B. De Villiers+
C. Cairns 4
V. Philander 1
H. Tayfield 5
A. Bedser 2
C. Ambrose 3

Trundler:

Glenn Turner
Gary Kirsten
KS Duleepsinhji
Jacques Kallis
Colin Cowdrey
Charlie McCartney
Johnny Waite
Peter Pollock
Wes Hell
Fred Trueman
Ironmonger

StephenZA:

Jack Hobbs
Bruce Mitchell
Kane Williamson
Peter Kirsten*
Zaheer Abbas
Quinton de Kock+
Wilfred Rhodes (5)
Patrick Cummins (1)
Fanie de Villiers (3)
Zaheer Khan (2)
Muttiah Muralitharan (4)

Marcuss (awaiting order):
Mohammad Asif (5.64), Wayne Daniel (6.57), Jim Laker (14.08), Imran Khan (37.69), Michael Atherton (37.69), Les Ames (40.56), Michael Vaughan (41.44), Richie Richardson (44.39), Allan Border (50.56), Rahul Dravid (52.31), Len Hutton
​

Group 3: Pothas, Line and Length, Teuton, Coronis

Pothas:

Graeme Smith
David Warner
David Gower
Steve Smith
Inzamam-ul-Haq
Mushtaq Mohammad
Matt Prior
Shaun Pollock
Fazal Mahmood
Rangana Herath
Dale Steyn

Line and Length:

C.Gayle 6
B.Edrich 7
D.Bradman (c)
G.Viswanath
S.Ganguly 8
A.Stewart (w/k)
B.D'Oliviera 5
A.Davidson 3
N.Lyon 4
F.Tyson 1
G.McGrath 2

Teuton:

Herbert Sutcliffe 60.73
Alastair Cook 45.35
Rohan Kanhai 47.53
Brian Lara 52.88
Ted Dexter 47.89
Frank Woolley 36.07
Alan Knott 32.75
Wasim Akram 22.64
Bob Willis c 11.50
Shoaib Akhtar 10.07
Bhagwat Chadrasekhar 4.07

Coronis:

Marvan Atapattu
Tamim Iqbal
Ken Barrington
Virat Kohli
Steve Waugh*
VVS Laxman
Keith Miller
Wally Grout+
Clarrie Grimmett
Mohammad Abbas
Bill Bowes
​

Group 4: Honestbharani, AndrewB, srbhkshkk, Ataraxia

Honest Hunks:


Trevor Goddard
Shane Watson
Denis Compton
Younis Khan (c)
Everton Weekes
Asif Iqbal
Adam Gilchrist (wk)
Ravi Ashwin
Hedley Verity
Mitch Starc
Malcolm Marshall

srbkshk:

S Gavaskar
G Gambhir
M Waugh
G Pollock
M Hussey
A Flintoff (5)
J Dujon (w)
A Kumble (c)
A Roberts
N Wagner
J Garner

AndrewB:

Barry Richards
Arthur Morris
Frank Worrell
Javed Miandad
Martin Donnelly
Tony Greig
Ian Healy
Maurice Tate
Ray Lindwall
Bill O'Reilly
Jasprit Bumrah

Ataraxia:

1. RB Simpson* / o
2. WM Lawry /
3. CL Walcott /
4. A Flower /
5. SJ McCabe / o
6. AW (Dave) Nourse / o
7. MJ Procter o /
8. SMH Kirmani + /
9. SE Bond o
10. DL Underwood o
11. AA Donald​

Voting will open when Marcuss submits his order. Just thought I'd get this up before bed.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

What's the policy on voting for groups which contain one's team? Are you allowed to/disallowed from voting for your own side? Or do voters abstain from voting in their groups?

 

[trundler]

Do what your moral sense tells you to, really.

 

[JOJOXI]

Just an update re bowling order for JOJOXI/Weldone side


1. Geoffrey Boycott
2. Virender Sehwag (5)
3. Aravinda de Silva
4. Sachin Tendulkar
5. Dudley Nourse
6. Mahela Jayawardene
7. Brendon McCullum * +
8. Kapil Dev (2)
9. Tim Southee (3)
10. Shane Warne (4)
11. Waqar Younis (1)

 

[Fuller Pilch]

KK's team is missing

 

[trundler]

My bad fixed. Just waiting for Marcuss to settle on a batting order

 

[ankitj]

What's the policy on voting for groups which contain one's team? Are you allowed to/disallowed from voting for your own side? Or do voters abstain from voting in their groups?

My bad fixed. Just waiting for Marcuss to settle on a batting order

I'll suggest don't vote when your team is in contest. There's a handicap for anyone who votes and doesn't vote for his own side while some others in the contest don't vote.

 

[ankitj]

For side by side viewing

Group 1

JOJOXI:	Red Hill CC:	Ankitj:	mr_mister:	CricZo XI (KingKallis):
1. Geoffrey Boycott	Desmond Haynes	Bill Ponsford	Graham Gooch *	Hanif Mohammad /
2. Virender Sehwag	Mark Taylor *	Conrad Hunte	Matthew Hayden	Justin Langer /
3. Aravinda de Silva	Viv Richards	Ricky Ponting (c)	Wally Hammond 6	Ian Chappell /
4. Sachin Tendulkar	Greg Chappell	George Headley	Neil Harvey	Graham Thorpe /
5. Dudley Nourse	Ernest Tyldesley	Doug Walters	Martin Crowe	Gary Sobers / o
6. Mahela Jayawardene	Eddie Paynter	Shakib Al Hasan [5]	Ian Botham 4	Ben Stokes / o
7. Brendon McCullum +	Godfrey Evans +	Imtiaz Ahmed +	Jack Gregory 3	Richie Benaud o / (c)
8. Kapil Dev	Harold Larwood	Richard Hadlee [1]	Don Tallon +	Rod Marsh + /
9. Tim Southee	Graeme Swann	Jack Cowie [3]	Michael Holding 2	Kagiso Rabada o
10. Shane Warne	Dennis Lillee	Stuart MacGill [4]	Lance Gibbs 5	James Anderson o
11. Waqar Younis	Bruce Reid	Courtney Walsh [2]	Neil Adcoc.k 1	Brett Schultz o

Group 2

FullerPilch:	Trundler:	StephenZA:	Marcuss:
G. Greenidge	Glenn Turner	Jack Hobbs	Len Hutton
M. Richardson	Gary Kirsten	Bruce Mitchell	Michael Atherton
M. Labuschagne 6	KS Duleepsinhji	Kane Williamson	Richie Richardson
K. Sangakkara*	Jacques Kallis	Peter Kirsten*	Rahul Dravid
S. Chanderpaul	Colin Cowdrey	Zaheer Abbas	Allan Border
A.B. De Villiers+	Charlie McCartney	Quinton de Kock+	Michael Vaughan
C. Cairns 4	Johnny Waite	Wilfred Rhodes (5)	Les Ames
V. Philander 1	Peter Pollock	Patrick Cummins (1)	Imran Khan
H. Tayfield 5	Wes Hell	Fanie de Villiers (3)	Jim Laker
A. Bedser 2	Fred Trueman	Zaheer Khan (2)	Mohammed Asif
C. Ambrose 3	Ironmonger	Muttiah Muralitharan (4)	Wayne Daniel

Group 3

Pothas:	Line and Length:	Teuton:	Coronis:
Graeme Smith	C.Gayle 6	Herbert Sutcliffe 60.73	Marvan Atapattu
David Warner	B.Edrich 7	Alastair Cook 45.35	Tamim Iqbal
David Gower	D.Bradman (c)	Rohan Kanhai 47.53	Ken Barrington
Steve Smith	G.Viswanath	Brian Lara 52.88	Virat Kohli
Inzamam-ul-Haq	S.Ganguly 8	Ted Dexter 47.89	Steve Waugh*
Mushtaq Mohammad	A.Stewart (w/k)	Frank Woolley 36.07	VVS Laxman
Matt Prior	B.D'Oliviera 5	Alan Knott 32.75	Keith Miller
Shaun Pollock	A.Davidson 3	Wasim Akram 22.64	Wally Grout+
Fazal Mahmood	N.Lyon 4	Bob Willis c 11.50	Clarrie Grimmett
Rangana Herath	F.Tyson 1	Shoaib Akhtar 10.07	Mohammad Abbas
Dale Steyn	G.McGrath 2	Bhagwat Chadrasekhar 4.07	Bill Bowes

Group 4

Honest Hunks:	srbkshk:	AndrewB:	Ataraxia:
Trevor Goddard	S Gavaskar	Barry Richards	1. RB Simpson* / o
Shane Watson	G Gambhir	Arthur Morris	2. WM Lawry /
Denis Compton	M Waugh	Frank Worrell	3. CL Walcott /
Younis Khan (c)	G Pollock	Javed Miandad	4. A Flower /
Everton Weekes	M Hussey	Martin Donnelly	5. SJ McCabe / o
Asif Iqbal	A Flintoff (5)	Tony Greig	6. AW (Dave) Nourse / o
Adam Gilchrist (wk)	J Dujon (w)	Ian Healy	7. MJ Procter o /
Ravi Ashwin	A Kumble (c)	Maurice Tate	8. SMH Kirmani + /
Hedley Verity	A Roberts	Ray Lindwall	9. SE Bond o
Mitch Starc	N Wagner	Bill O'Reilly	10. DL Underwood o
Malcolm Marshall	J Garner	Jasprit Bumrah	11. AA Donald

 

[ankitj]

My votes:

Group 2 - FullerPilch, Marcuss
Group 3 - Pothas, Teuton
Group 4 - srbkshk, Ataraxia

Some really tough and marginal calls.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Group 1 - some great allrounders in a few groups and excellent batting throughout.

Jojo's batting is superb with McCullum and Kapil following a quality top 6. It would also be interesting seeing 2 such contrasting but excellent openers. Perhaps another bowling option and that would be absolutely top rate.

Red Hill - some incredibly exciting talents here. Imagine Viv and G Chappell together with the bat and Lillee and Larwood steaming in.Possibly weaker tail than the other sides.

Ankjit - really well balanced side with lots of quality bowling options. This is a good attack. Perhaps some batting vulnerability from 5-7, but the very strong top 4 covers this. Nice work to nab Hadlee and Shakib.

Mr mr - another power packed batting lineup with players with a very good top 5 and more of the gun allrounders who are prevalent in these group 1 teams. There is depth in the bowling, but perhaps not as strong as some other attacks.

KK - amazing effort to have the 3 allrounders from 5-7. Varied and balanced side as a result but perhaps some other teams have stronger top orders and specialist seamers.

Overall this was very very tough.
Ankjit is one of the top 2 as I like the balance.
The other is Red Hill as there are some many tough players who'd never take a backward step.

I need more time for groups 3 and 4.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Group 2 - I liked all the sides but won't vote.

Here are some comments:

Trundler - nice work to get Waite who was quality. Strong overall side with Kallis and Trueman obvious standouts.

Stephen ZA - v good top 3 and the GOAT spinner but some of the others are perhaps not as proven.

Marcus - strong top 8 with Ames and Imran following the batsmen. Laker and Imran are standouts with the ball and Border's SLAs will come in handy.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Group 3 - extremely hard to pick again.

Pothas - very strong side. Mushtaq Mohammed and Shaun Pollock provide depth to batting and bowling. Great bowling attack and strong batting led by Steve Smith.

L and L - started with McGrath and finished with Bradman. Great pace attack and excellent tactics to snare the big fish of batting. His support is good, but perhaps could've been better. Maybe Dilip Vengsakar instead of Viswanath or Ganguly.

Teuton - strong batting lineup, ATG gloveman, and very nicely balanced bowling with support from Dexter and Wooley.

Coronis - magnificent middle order (3-7). Miller improves the pace attack and adds depth to the batting. Not the strongest opening batting pair.

This was very tough. I was so impressed with L and L's strategy to get Bradman I feel terrible not choosing his team, but Pothas and Teuton are the two I'm picking from this group.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Group 4

Honest Hunks - plenty of bowling options obviously led by Marshall. Did well after waiting so long for 2nd pick. Strong 3-4 and great work to get Gilchrist, but opening batsmen leave the side looking a bit vulnerable.

srbkshk - solid batting lineup and nasty bowling attack (expect a lot of short balls!). Kumble provides good variation. Not sure the best position to bat M Waugh.

Andrew B - very classy side. Worrell and Greig support the main bowlers. Quality top 5 with the bat. O'Reilly perhaps the best of the spinners in group 4.

Ataraxia - another gun side. Several of the batsman are very handy with the ball and who knows how great the likes of Procter and Bond could've been with more opportunities. Able to play Walcott and Flower as specialist batsmen and still have bowling riches.

Extremely tough again, but my votes go to Andrew B and Ataraxia.

 

[StephenZA]

Group 1 -JOJOXI, Ankjit
Group 2 - FullerPilch, Marcuss
Group 3 - Pothas, Teuton
Group 4 - AndrewB, Ataraxia

 

[Howe_zat]

Group 1: Ankitj, KingKallis
Group 2: Fuller Pilch, Trundler
Group 3: Line and Length, Teuton
Group 4: AndrewB, srbhkshk

 

[StephenZA]

My pick of Peter Kirsten being massively under appreciated here...

 

[ankitj]

Group 1 -JOJOXI, Ankjit
Group 2 - FullerPilch, Marcuss
Group 3 - Pothas, Teuton
Group 4 - AndrewB, Ataraxia

Do you want to vote in your own group? Puts you at a disadvantage. May be @trundler needs to give a ruling.

 

[trundler]

Yeah abstaining from your own group makes the most sense

 

[StephenZA]

I am not getting through, never thought I would. May as well give my selection for the others.

 

[anil1405]

Group 1: Red Hill, Ankitj
Group 2: Fuller, Marcuss
Group 3: LL, Teuton
Group 4: srbkshk, Ataraxia