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Was that before or after he said WI fans are monkeys who belong in trees?Gavaskar reckons he was the best of them.
Was that before or after he said WI fans are monkeys who belong in trees?Gavaskar reckons he was the best of them.
After, I believe. At least in public.Was that before or after he said WI fans are monkeys who belong in trees?
Thanks buddy! More of us are needed to dispel many rumours about Sachin! Including the one which claims that Inzamam was a better player to bank on in critical matches than Tendulkar! After this: Tendulkar vs Inzamam! Next I will probably hear that Tamim Iqbal is a better player in important matches than Tendulkar!Followed this conversation just today and Sachinfan, you are a good addition to the forum. - A co-Sachin fan![]()
Who made this quote? Related to what? If this was about West Indies fans repeatedly storming into the ground and invading it before match finished, then he is spot on. Every country has unruly fans, India knows it better than most, but West Indies crowds take it to another level.After, I believe. At least in public.
Not happy or sad, just being factual. If you call the crowd of Eden Gardens as shameful and pathetic, I will accept it even though I am from that city. Although Eden Gardens has later redeemed itself.He wrote it in a book after the 1976 tour. You’re presumably happy with it, based on your post. Itstl
Yes. Deal with it.haha another tendy love in
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It’s one thing to call a crowd pathetic, it’s quite another to suggest the [black] people in it are subhuman or apes. Can’t you see that difference?Not happy or sad, just being factual. If you call the crowd of Eden Gardens as shameful and pathetic, I will accept it even though I am from that city. Although Eden Gardens has later redeemed itself.
You're attributing way too much intelligence to Gavaskar if you think he intended the racist undertones, or was even aware of them to begin with. Plus completely ignoring the cultural connotations of those terms within India, and looking at it purely from a western set of eyes.It’s one thing to call a crowd pathetic, it’s quite another to suggest the people in it are subhuman or apes. Can’t you see that difference?
This **** has a point for once. Monkey just means uncivilised in the SC. That's like someone from ancient the world mistakenly thinking someone was calling them wise instead of treacherous upon being referred to as a snake.You're attributing way too much intelligence to Gavaskar if you think he intended the racist undertones, or was even aware of them to begin with. Plus completely ignoring the cultural connotations of those terms within India, and looking at it purely from a western set of eyes.
But I've told this to you before and you didn't care then so don't think it's going to make any difference now.
We've had generations of subcontinental posters show up here and state this in reference to Monkey gate and Gavaskar's comments, and yet Burgey refuses to budge on his views. He attributes malice to where ignorance and lack of cultural awareness would be sufficient. Not only that, but he goes around instigating this argument with every Indian poster he can find. He's either got this real deep seated belief that Indians use the word Monkey as a racist term, and that everyone who says otherwise is an apologist, or he does this to instigate a **** fight he knows he can use his lawyer cunning to win and get someone else banned.This **** has a point for once. Monkey just means uncivilised in the SC. That's like someone from ancient the world mistakenly thinking someone was calling them wise instead of treacherous upon being referred to as a snake.
Ah, sorry mate, I did not mean it this way. In India, we actually use "ape" in another way, to connote a naught child. Like my mom called me "ape" whenever I used to be naughty. That was not racial, just a common slang. Like Aussies use "bastard" as a common slang (Bill Woofdull famously asked "Which one of you bastards called this bastard a bastard" when Douglas Jardine complained that the Aussies were calling him "bastard"), but in India, it is a hugely derogatory slang.It’s one thing to call a crowd pathetic, it’s quite another to suggest the [black] people in it are subhuman or apes. Can’t you see that difference?
Particularly coming from the bloke who’s played the race card more often than anyone else in world cricket.
When and where did Gavaskar play the race card?It’s one thing to call a crowd pathetic, it’s quite another to suggest the [black] people in it are subhuman or apes. Can’t you see that difference?
Particularly coming from the bloke who’s played the race card more often than anyone else in world cricket.
I don't think he's even physically capable of changing the bed pan anymore tbqhGood luck trying to get through to him. Are you even physically capable of changing your mind at that age?
90s were the best for fast bowlers and spinners both.What is all this talk about bowlers of the 70s and 90s? The 80s were the best decade for seamers. Hadlee and Marshall with an improved Imran and a few more West Indians