CW chooses the 2 best bowlers ever: 60 spinners + 100 pacemen in 2 separate contests

[the big bambino]

Mate this is a five test series. Viriya toss the coin.

 

[watson]

Red Hill - you left out Hugh Trumble. I thought that he was one of your fav's?

Just realised that we've left out Monty Noble who was an off-spinner - kinda.


Hugh Trumble
Arthur Mailey
Clarrie Grimmett
Bill O'Reilly
Richie Benaud
Shane Warne




Peter Pollock
Peter Heine
Neil Adcock
Mike Procter
Alan Donald
Shaun Pollock
Mahkaya Ntini
Dale Steyn

 

[mr_mister]

i'll make trumble humble

 

[Gob]

I think it's:
Murali
McGrath/Hadlee/Ambrose/Barnes

No Marshall and Steyn because they didn't excel as much in ODIs.

No sane person gives many ****s about ODIs

 

[AndrewB]

Hugh Trumble
Arthur Mailey
Clarrie Grimmett
Bill O'Reilly
Richie Benaud
Shane Warne


Neil Adcock
Garth Le Roux
Vincent Van Der Bijl
Mike Procter
Allan Donald
Shaun Pollock
Mahkaya Ntini
Dale Steyn

 

[viriya]

No sane person gives many ****s about ODIs

That's why I suggested making this test only.. since it's supposed to be all formats odi performance is one way of differentiating players. I'm thinking rate players 75% based on their test record and 25% odi. And replace with FC for test for those who didn't play enough.

 

[watson]

That's why I suggested making this test only.. since it's supposed to be all formats odi performance is one way of differentiating players. I'm thinking rate players 75% based on their test record and 25% odi. And replace with FC for test for those who didn't play enough.

Have you ever tried herding cats?

 

[jimmy101]

Hugh Trumble
Clarrie Grimmett
Bill O'Reilly
Richie Benaud
Shane Warne
Stuart MacGill

Peter Pollock
Neil Adcock
Vincent Van Der Bijl
Mike Procter
Shaun Pollock
Alan Donald
Dale Steyn
Vernon Philander

 

[Red]

Red Hill - you left out Hugh Trumble. I thought that he was one of your fav's?

Definitely one of my faves, and the greatest offie Australia have had, but I think all of our greatest spinners have been the 6 leggies I chose.

I guess on another day I could replace Benaud with Trumble...

 

[Red]

Additionally, Bert Ironmonger might be my favourite cricketer of all time, and I had to leave him out as well because I think this has to be based on test performance to be fair.

 

[the big bambino]

Dainty' test performance is good and if he went to England in 26 and or 30 would likely rank with o'reilly.

 

[Howe_zat]

IN

Hugh Trumble - probably the first great bowler from Australia, along with Spofforth. Not entirely convinced he was a spinner, like
Clarrie Grimmett - There is a whole display for him at the cricket museum in Wellington. He gets more attention there than the majority of actual NZ players. Must have been a bit good
Bert Ironmonger - Having an international career entire post mid life crisis is a new way to go about things. Kept up with the very best with the ball while he played
Bill O'Reilly - Best leg spinner of all time
Richie Benaud - allroundering aside he has one of the best away records in the game
Shane Warne - not bad for a fat bloke

OUT

Jack Saunders - I could look him up but eh
Arthur Mailey - I don't remember why I'm meant to rate him
Ashley Mallett - did a job, not enough at this level
Chuck Fleetwood-Smith - I thank the Chuck FleetwoodSmiths for introducing me to him. 1/298 not the best look though
Jack Iverson - See Mailey
Stuart MacGill - tough call between him and Benaud, went with the bloke who won more series for his side though

~

IN

Peter Pollock
Neil Adcock
Vincent Van Der Bijl
Mike Procter
Alan Donald
Shaun Pollock
Dale Steyn
Vernon Philander

OUT

Peter Heine - no idea
Trevor Goddard - average aside he was pretty much just a sedate opener who bowled a bit
Fanie De Villiers - bounced Devon Malcolm like a muppet
Craig Matthews - nope
Jacques Kallis - is an actual bowler, more so than people want to admit, but come on
Mahkaya Ntini - good bowler who looked completely spent when he wasn't in favourable circumstances
Morne Morkel - king of taking 2/60
Garth Le Roux - tough call between him and van der Bijl but the latter tends to be talked up more often

 

[Howe_zat]

I wanted to leave out big Vernon, but in the end it's weird to pick Le Roux or Van der Bijl ahead of Philander based on FC cricket, when Philander tore up domestic cricket for years before he got picked.

 

[cnerd123]

Hugh Trumble
Clarrie Grimmett
Bill O'Reilly
Richie Benaud
Shane Warne
Stuart MacGill


Peter Pollock
Neil Adcock
Garth Le Roux
Vincent Van Der Bijl
Mike Procter
Alan Donald
Shaun Pollock
Dale Steyn

 

[Zinzan]

Hugh Trumble
Clarrie Grimmett
Bill O'Reilly
Shane Warne
Jack Iverson
Jack Saunders

Peter Pollock
Mike Procter
Neil Adcock
Dale Steyn
Alan Donald
Shaun Pollock
Vernon Philander
Vince van der Bijl


Harsh on Ntini and Morkel for all their wickets, but that's some competition

 

[weldone]

Best Spinner ever, Round 1, Heat 1:
Clarrie Grimmett
Bert Ironmonger
Bill O'Reilly
Richie Benaud
Shane Warne
Stuart MacGill

Best Pacemen ever, Round 1, Heat 1:
Peter Pollock
Neil Adcock
Garth Le Roux
Vincent Van Der Bijl
Mike Procter
Alan Donald
Shaun Pollock
Dale Steyn

 

[viriya]

Best Spinner ever, Round 1, Heat 1:

Clarrie Grimmett
Bill O'Reilly
Shane Warne
Hugh Trumble
Richie Benaud
Stuart MacGill

Best Pacemen ever, Round 1, Heat 1:

Allan Donald
Shaun Pollock
Mahkaya Ntini
Dale Steyn
Vernon Philander
Morne Morkel
Neil Adcock
Peter Pollock

 

[watson]

Jacques Kallis? I think that any sane batsman would much rather face Kallis than Adcock and Heine. But Kallis did take a lot of wickets I guess.

 

[viriya]

Jacques Kallis? I think that any sane batsman would much rather face Kallis than Adcock and Heine. But Kallis did take a lot of wickets I guess.

eh I picked him since no one else would.

 

[Zinzan]

eh I picked him since no one else would.

Strange mentality.