***Official*** Pakistan in New Zealand - T20/ODI series - Jan 2016

[Athlai]

sorry howe, I still don't understand. As Athlai says are you saying i can't lose? I mean if you are putting $1 on Pak and $1 on NZ and Pak win then you essentially gain 80 cents [2.80 -1(money on nz) -1(money on pak)]? Correct? So you don't lose, right?

 

[Zinzan]

Meanie

 

[Black_Warrior]

Just. Cant. ****ing. Wait. I know the **** team is going to get pounded but still....

 

[Kippax]

Quite a dire yet amusing preview of the tour from a Pak perspective here. If only the NZ Herald called Spuderford a "super flop" and put it all down to Otago bias

Snubbing highest wicket-taker exposes biased selection policy

ISLAMABAD - Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) chief selector Haroon Rasheed has announced Pakistan’s one-day and Twenty20 squad for the upcoming New Zealand tour.

A lot of surprises were witnessed in the squads, as Haroon continued his legacy of obliging blue-eyed players in the touring party.
The biggest surprise in the entire saga was the omission of Sohail Tanveer, who was the leading T/20 wicket-taker in the 2015.
Haroon has just made Tanveer scapegoat.
His personal disliking and grudge against Sohail was the reason behind his exclusion from both T20 and ODI squads.
It had nothing to do with on field performances.

Haroon must explain reasons behind inclusion of Wahab Riaz, who is too expensive and had not taken even handful of wickets, in the T20 format.
Only one stand out performance in the world cup are not enough to remain glued with a bowler who has failed to repeat the same venom in the rest of the year.
Another questionable selection is of Asad Shafiq in the ODIs as he has failed to impress on international as well as on domestic circuit for the past several months.
He had hardly scored runs in the ODIs even then he got the nod of approval just because he is from the same province, where the chief selector resides.
Umar Akmal is a genuine talent and a match winner, but he was only restricted to T/20 format.

Even the chief selector again went with Iftikhar Ahmed, an obvious sign how the selection matters are being governed by the PCB.
As a super flop against England in the last series in UAE, he doesn’t look like international stuff just like Riffat Ullah Mehmond, who was given debut in T/20 internationals, just to rectify the old mistakes.
When Riffat was young and scoring loads of runs in the domestic circuit, he was ignored.
Now when he had well passed his peak days, he was inducted in the national squad.
This scribe had already mentioned that Riffat would be a super flop in international cricket and the same happened.
He never looked like representing national team, rather a provincial squad.

PCB had set stage only for the much-anticipated return of tainted M Aamir.
Najam Sethi had taken the initiative of ensuring Aamir’s path to national squad and he is successful in achieving his goal.
It makes no sense of giving another chance to a person, who had sold the motherland for few bucks.
Nobody could agree with the childish argument, that Aamir was too young when he committed the blunder.
It would open way for others to do the same and get away after serving few years ban.
Aamir should have been made a huge example for others, so no one could dare to even think about selling the millions of Pakistanis.

Quite strangely unfit M Irfan was ignored from the shorter version of the game, where he had to bowl only four overs and he could have proved quite lethal.
Instead Irfan was inducted in the ODIs, very surprising and huge eyebrows were raised, but no one in the PCB could dare to ask Haroon.
What kind of selection is it?
The main reason behind green caps constant decline in all three formats of the game is just of poor selection policy.
A person who had hardly scored handful of runs during his career has been given the responsibility of chief selector.
There is absolutely no dearth of talent in the country.
The only need is to select the squads on merit.
If Haroon claims Sohail Tanveer’s fielding behind his exclusion, then not a single player in the squad could claim his place.
He is super fit and had not dropped catches in the past.
Even the greats like Rhodes, AB De Villars had dropped quite a few catches and missfielded on number of occasions.
Umar Gul was included in Twenty20 format despite huge question marks over his fitness.
He was given chance in the T20 to get much-needed confidence back.

Same is the case with Rahat Ali who again got nod.
Overall selection policy looked highly dubious and clearly indicates that the PCB lacks vision, direction and no way forward.
The claimed that as World T20 Cup is just round the corner, they won’t experiment more and would try to let the combination settle down.
But the reality is quite different.
Sohail had not only bowled well, but he had also shut his critics mouths up with more than satisfactory performances with the willow as well.
Immad Wasim’s return would definitely boost Pakistan team chance.
But majority of players were just compensated, rather than selected on merit.

Time is ripe, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, who is also the chief patron of the PCB, must do something to stop Shahryar Khan and company from further destroying the fortunes of national team.
Any further delays could spell disaster and could inflict irreparable damages, which could take years to mend.
Pakistan team’s chances of performing well against Kiwis and that too at their own backyard look highly grim as only a miracle could safe green caps from embarrassment in the mega event if the board continues with such absurd selection policy.

 

[Black_Warrior]

That was a really badly written, ill informed and poorly researched piece.

 

[Kippax]

There's the writer ftr -

 

[kiwiviktor81]

Is 'blue-eyed' a metaphor for something in Pakistani English or did the author of that article just imply some kind of Nazi master race selection theory in Pak cricket?

 

[smash84]

The article says that huge eyebrows were raised on selection of Irfan for odis

 

[Black_Warrior]

Is 'blue-eyed' a metaphor for something in Pakistani English or did the author of that article just imply some kind of Nazi master race selection theory in Pak cricket?

Blue-eyed boy usually means the favoured one.

 

[Black_Warrior]

The article says that huge eyebrows were raised on selection of Irfan for odis

If he is going by dumb posts on FB, then yes.

The team management is quite satisfied with Irfan's bowling in ODIs this year.

The reason he wasn't picked for the T20s was the inclusion of Amir and Gul. They didn't want too many left armers in the squad, and Gul offered them a right arm option if Amir was to be picked.

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

Fitting that this thread started with gambling chat.

 

[smash84]

If he is going by dumb posts on FB, then yes.

The team management is quite satisfied with Irfan's bowling in ODIs this year.

The reason he wasn't picked for the T20s was the inclusion of Amir and Gul. They didn't want too many left armers in the squad, and Gul offered them a right arm option if Amir was to be picked.

The funny part was the huge eyebrows. Not the criticism on selection

 

[smash84]

Wahab Riaz calls for ‘all-out attack’ against New Zealand - Sport - DAWN.COM

This will blow up in wahab's face

 

[Moss]

Wahab Riaz calls for ‘all-out attack’ against New Zealand - Sport - DAWN.COM

This will blow up in wahab's face

Gotta love the undercurrent of scepticism in “It seems like cricket is very easy these days for the New Zealand batsmen”.

 

[smash84]

wahab isn't really a special bowler either and has always been on the expensive side in LO cricket. He's quick but he ain't no shoaib akhtar and he doesn't bowl a lot of wicket taking deliveries. Usually performs below his potential too imo

 

[Niall]

Quite a dire yet amusing preview of the tour from a Pak perspective here. If only the NZ Herald called Spuderford a "super flop" and put it all down to Otago bias

Snubbing highest wicket-taker exposes biased selection policy

That article is abysmal.

Tanvir isn't that good whatsoever and generally flops against the better teams. His batting is another minus also, so often he has been at the crease when they they need a few runs and he always screws it up.No issue with leaving him out, and then the fielding!. I am not writing him off whatsoever, but no harm in leaving him out for now and having a look. The moaning about Rahat is unfair, I am unsure about him as a limited overs bowler, but lets have a look in this series. Its not the end of the world if he flops, Tanvir will be waiting in the wings anyway!

Irfan isn't much of a t20 bower either, can go miles at the death, so his exclusion not a scandal either.

Shafiq gripe I understand, but he is in the side due to Azhar which is something he has missed.

Umar Akmal?

No just no, he has been given enough chances and has not seized them, no matter what position he batted in ODI cricket. He also is a bit of an idiot as well, so no harm whatsoever to restrict him to t20 cricket.He has time on his side, and he shouldn't be wrote off just yet, but for now he has no right to moan about been excluded from 50 overs.

 

[Moss]

wahab isn't really a special bowler either and has always been on the expensive side in LO cricket. He's quick but he ain't no shoaib akhtar and he doesn't bowl a lot of wicket taking deliveries. Usually performs below his potential too imo

True, but he seemed to add an extra bit of menace over the last 12 months. When he gets it together he can be a dangerous proposition, as in the series against England in the UAE and of course the spell of the World Cup last year against Australia. So far these have been occasional highs.

 

[Niall]

And just to even crap on that horror article even more, since its publication Asad has player 2 fifty over matches in Pakistan, a century in one and 66 in the other.

 

[smash84]

True, but he seemed to add an extra bit of menace over the last 12 months. When he gets it together he can be a dangerous proposition, as in the series against England in the UAE and of course the spell of the World Cup last year against Australia. So far these have been occasional highs.

That world cup spell. Reminds me of the Ishant Sharma spell in 2008 that got him stuck in the Indian side for the next 5-6 years before he became half decent. Btw was he part of the indian test side recently.

Any how Wahab hasn't been anywhere near as good as the media attention showered on him of late. I can see the likes of Guptill and KW spank the **** out of him.

 

[weldone]

sorry howe, I still don't understand. As Athlai says are you saying i can't lose? I mean if you are putting $1 on Pak and $1 on NZ and Pak win then you essentially gain 80 cents [2.80 -1(money on nz) -1(money on pak)]? Correct? So you don't lose, right?

Smali, Athlai is just mocking you.

If you put $1 on NZ and Pak then if NZ wins you're losing $0.6

Take a simpler example: Put $1 on Pakistan and $2 on NZ. Now, regardless of the result you will always lose $0.2 (because your investment is $3 and you'll get back $2.8)