BlazeDragon
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Technically they are no. 2 right now but icc doesn't do ratings match by match so.......
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''England is no.1 test team''
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Daemon
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Like what SS said it would depend on the margin of victories and also the quality of cricket played. If it's anything like the recent Ashes then no one can dispute England are ahead by a huge margin.
I also mention quality because you can't rule out South Africa from this, and an overall relatively poorer standard of cricket resulting in a series win will mean England>India, but SA won't be too far behind. Works vice versa as well.
All this talk is pointless though, since India is definitely going to win
four_or_six
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It's a shame South Africa don't play a sensible amount of test cricket. It should be a really exciting three-way battle atm, but SA hardly ever seem to play.
flibbertyjibber
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Well BCCI love one dayers so blame them.
Furball
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The ODI series is on top of both side's FTP commitments. We're coming for a 4 Test series in 2012.
silentstriker
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I thought it was changed to five Test series in the new FTP.
silentstriker
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Yea, England make no money and are going for no reason whatsoever.
Spark
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...which starts in 2013, doesn't it?
silentstriker
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No idea...I thought the Test championship was in 2012?
Cevno
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Both the boards are to be blamed equally tbh.
As SS said it's not as if England would be coming for free to play ODI's and making no money on top of the FTP.
Spark
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Trying to cram something like that in or around the Olympics would be a terrible idea.
centurymaker
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it's in 2013
Furball
Evil Scotsman
2013 and 2017.
England tour India for 4 Test series in 2012 and 2016. India play 5 Test series in England in 2014 and 2018.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
That's weird, five Test series away and a four Test series at home?
Furball
Evil Scotsman
I don't know how feasable fitting in a 5 Test series between October and Christmas is, particularly as I'm sure the ECB would want a couple of tour games before the series starts.
edit: just looked at the schedule - with a window for the Champions League that takes you up to the start of November, and England's unwillingness to be in India over Christmas (both tours are split with England coming back in January for ODIs), unless the Champions League gets scrapped then there isn't the room for a 5 Test series in India.
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silentstriker
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I guess BCCI not giving a **** about proper warm ups the culprit. So effectively it's a four Test series in England with the home side being given a 1-0 lead.
I guess the ****s don't think that in the long term having a team that performs better might yield more money and more vieweship?
I guess the ****s don't think that in the long term having a team that performs better might yield more money and more vieweship?
Furball
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honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
make it two.. I mean, I don't mind a table and a rankings system and currently ICC's is reasonably fair, though not completely (and I guess no system will ever be, tbh).. But having a table and rankings gives some context to even dead rubber games, so it is welcome in that sense. And you can call your side the best side but thing to be remembered is the next best is not that far off.. That has been the case with India since we became #1 and that will be the case when England take over at the end of this series.Cute but flawed, imo: I'd suggest that there's rather more variables regarding the quality of cricket teams than the height of Mt Everest et al. When teams are as close as the top 3 right now, would England creeping ahead if they win this series by two games make them definitively the best side? I reckon not, although I know others will differ. They might be, but these points are so easily skewed by timing of the fixtures, the weather, injuries etc that I don't think we can be definitive unless there's clear daylight after the top side.
I've long argued that having a league table to identify the best side is either pointless (see WI 1980-1995 and Aus 1995 to 2008) or meaningless (as at present). Happy to be in a minimum of one though.