There wasn't any excessive bounce in any of the pitches in 2007/08 on which Lee excelled.
Nor was there any great bounce in 2 out of the 3 games in West Indies in 2008 either.
Lee was a vastly better bowler in 2007/08 than he was for the time he was being carried as a passenger by McGrath, Gillespie, Warne and occasionally others.
WordFair to say he will be 2nd tier.
No matter what he does he will not be a Lillee, Lindwall or McGrath.
He will be in there with the best that are not the greatest. McDermott, Hughes, McKenzie etc
Possibly might be revising this down a tad in light of recent performances/injuries.Interesting. He is shouldering far more of a workload since McGrath gave it away and is all-but 32 now, but he does still look like an absolute athlete & seems to bowl within himself more nowadays, so I'd think he's got 3 years in him. Could see him carrying on until the 2010/11 Ashes, form and injury permitting. 35-40 wickets per year seems reasonable judging by his recent form (HowStat), so that'll put him over 400 for mine.
If he regains fitness he's still a gun ODI bowler.As if he's going to be selected again in any format. Sorry Brett, you've been a great servant, but times have moved on and your body has failed you.
A great servant for 7 Tests in 1999/2000-2000/01 & 8 in 2007/08. I wish Lee could come back in place of Hilfenhaus, but sadly Hiflenhaws now has the chance to prove himself 5 times the bolwer Lee ever wuz.As if he's going to be selected again in any format. Sorry Brett, you've been a great servant, but times have moved on and your body has failed you.
Paul David Collingwood = class.GOOD OLD COLLINGWOOD - IN 2010 AND FOREVER z
Yep, spot on there Rich. Couldn't agree more with your sentiments, being so gracious about a fellow who's had to retire through injury, and who took 300 plus Test wickets despite some fairly obvious limitations with his bowling.A great servant for 7 Tests in 1999/2000-2000/01 & 8 in 2007/08. I wish Lee could come back in place of Hilfenhaus, but sadly Hiflenhaws now has the chance to prove himself 5 times the bolwer Lee ever wuz.
His limitations lay more with his intellect ("hey, one more bouncer couldn't hurt!") than with his skill with the ball. He had almost everything - express pace, decent seam movement, reverse swing, just enough outswing, inswing, cutters, a slower ball and a deadly yorker and bouncer when he used them properly.Yep, spot on there Rich. Couldn't agree more with your sentiments, being so gracious about a fellow who's had to retire through injury, and who took 300 plus Test wickets despite some fairly obvious limitations with his bowling.
His limitations lay more with his intellect ("hey, one more bouncer couldn't hurt!") than with his skill with the ball. He had almost everything - express pace, decent seam movement, reverse swing, just enough outswing, inswing, cutters, a slower ball and a deadly yorker and bouncer when he used them properly.
Pretty much 90% of bowling at a decent level, tbh. There are plenty of guys out there (minus his pace) who can do all of that too but very, very few who put the mental package together enough to be awesome Test bowlers.His limitations lay more with his intellect ("hey, one more bouncer couldn't hurt!") than with his skill with the ball. He had almost everything - express pace, decent seam movement, reverse swing, just enough outswing, inswing, cutters, a slower ball and a deadly yorker and bouncer when he used them properly.