four_or_six
Cricketer Of The Year
How keen is Ponting going to be throwing him the ball in a couple of weeks?Symonds so far in IPL: 6.5-0-101-0
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***Official*** IPL match discussion thread
- Thread starter silentstriker
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sideshowtim
Banned
Yeah, well without Symonds in their team it probably wouldn't have even got the position where Deccan were in with a chance of winning the game. Laxman's terrible captaincy is mostly to blame, although it must be said that Symo REALLY needs to work on his bowling. It's got to the point where he is just a very good batsman and fielder in One Day cricket, his bowling is almost worth nothing now.
four_or_six
Cricketer Of The Year
My feeling is that all things considered, Styris in for Symonds (when he goes to WI) will be a pretty good swap.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Agreed.
PhoenixFire
International Coach
I'm sorry, but you can't heap the blame on Laxman. You can't blame those sorts of bowling figures on anybody but the bowler.
sideshowtim
Banned
Symonds had been bowling terribly all throughout the tournament....Why on Earth would you throw him on to bowl the death over when he had been so very, very easily hittable all tournament? The blame is about 90% VVS, 10% Symonds IMO.
I'm sorry, but you can't heap the blame on Laxman. You can't blame those sorts of bowling figures on anybody but the bowler.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Haha, sorry, no.
PhoenixFire
International Coach
If he had been bowling terribly, then why didn't he: a) Do something about it? or, b) Tell VVS and say that he didn't want to bowl.
Either way, it doesn't surprise me that you are saying Symonds (an Australian) has done very little wrong in the issue.
sideshowtim
Banned
a) What's he meant to do, become a better bowler in the space of a few overs?
b) Doesn't matter what the player says, what the captain says goes, as you would know if you had ever played or watched cricket. You always follow the captain's orders.
Symonds has certainly done wrong in that he has bowled terribly and has done so for the whole tournament, Laxman is mostly at fault for failing to realise this and bowling him in the most important over of the game. I can see what he was trying to do, be a creative, innovative captain, but he fell horribly short of the mark.
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Because Symonds is known as an all-rounder and he had no main bowlers left so decided to use his next most experienced and best bowler available. If he hadn't used Symonds, and they lost, people would be saying he's an idiot for not bowling him.
Can't win really.
sideshowtim
Banned
Exactly, he is a very poor captain and manager of the bowlers. It's also his fault for putting them in a situation where a dire 5th option bowler had to bowl the last one.
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Is Ponting a dire captain because of Lewis?
Ofcourse yes ,Giving the ;last important over to a proven failure is captains fault .I would put 70% blame on Laxman and i have no doubt that DC will be much better if he got replaced by some other .I am not a supporter of any particular team .But to tell the truth .Laxman was/is /will be a poor captain in IPL .
four_or_six
Cricketer Of The Year
Did Puma decided they didn't want to sponsor Watto any more now he snapped their bat? He was playing without any stickers on his bat today.
sideshowtim
Banned
Ponting is a great captain, but he isn't perfect, and bowling Lewis' full 10 was a mistake against SA. However keeping him on at the death against NZ wasn't a bad idea as Lewis had a rep as a very good death bowler and his death bowling actually saved a game for us in the CH series, so Ponting was justified there. I can't remember the last time Symonds' death bowling was seen as effective, ever.
ret
International Debutant
ah-ha, nice to see you accepting that Taylor, Kohli, Misbah, Boucher, Sehwag, Gambhir, Tiwary are class batsmen
i support all teams from the North-Western region .... would love to have all four coming in to the semis but Kolkatta Knigh Riders are playing well and some for its overseas players will play most of the tourney, so i hope that it's a musical chair b/w these 5
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Didn't say all three teams have class batting. They have some combination of class bowling or batting.ah-ha, nice to see you accepting that Taylor, Kohli, Misbah, Boucher, Sehwag, Gambhir, Tiwary are class batsmen
i support all teams from the North-Western region .... would love to have all four coming in to the semis but Kolkatta Knigh Riders are playing well and some for its overseas players will play most of the tourney, so i hope that it's a musical chair b/w these 5
ret
International Debutant
so do most teams