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  • Quinton de Kock

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  • Jos Buttler

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    QDK or Jos?

    One is an excellent odi opener, the other a devastating finisher. Who would rather have as your odi keeper-batsman?

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    QDK is a better batsman, but I'd probably have Jos as keeper bat. Even though he's a worse gloveman and batsman, he's a superb floating finisher.

    QDK is a better batsman and should drop the gloves and focus on opening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
    QDK is a better batsman, but I'd probably have Jos as keeper bat. Even though he's a worse gloveman and batsman, he's a superb floating finisher.

    QDK is a better batsman and should drop the gloves and focus on opening.
    Calls to drop the gloves happen every time a keeper-batsman has a good run of scores. Why? It's incredibly beneficial to have a keeper who plays like a genuine batsman.
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    Probably the ****. Lost a bit of love for Buttler following his diabolical ashes series with the bat. That said QDK wasn't great in the WC last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
    QDK is a better batsman, but I'd probably have Jos as keeper bat. Even though he's a worse gloveman and batsman, he's a superb floating finisher.

    QDK is a better batsman and should drop the gloves and focus on opening.
    If we had a quality alternate then maybe, but he is young and not a senior member of the side yet... if another keeper batsmen comes along as QDK matures and SA become more reliant on his batting then maybe consider it... much to early now.
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    Looks like if you asked this question a month ago the result would be completely different - good reason to hold off calling it for now

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    odis it's jos. qdk had a shocker of a world cup.
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    More players atm can do what QDK does (consistently destructive opening batsman - Nohit, Warner, Guptill, Gayle and maybe Hales/Roy) than what Jos does (consistently destructive finisher - only Maxwell really, guys like Faulkner/Miller/Munro/Afridi/Raina/Russell are a class below and MSD is past his prime).

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorax View Post
    More players atm can do what QDK does (consistently destructive opening batsman - Nohit, Warner, Guptill, Gayle and maybe Hales/Roy) than what Jos does (consistently destructive finisher - only Maxwell really, guys like Faulkner/Miller/Munro/Afridi/Raina/Russell are a class below and MSD is past his prime).

    So I pick Jos.
    Munro last played odis ages ago. You're also forgetting the greatest finisher of them all, ABdV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    odis it's jos. qdk had a shocker of a world cup.
    Jos didn`t exactly set the world alight during WC either? QDK had a terrible world cup but I do think greater expectation was put on him than Jos, because QDK`s form before the WC was great.

    Quote Originally Posted by zorax View Post
    More players atm can do what QDK does (consistently destructive opening batsman - Nohit, Warner, Guptill, Gayle and maybe Hales/Roy) than what Jos does (consistently destructive finisher - only Maxwell really, guys like Faulkner/Miller/Munro/Afridi/Raina/Russell are a class below and MSD is past his prime).

    So I pick Jos.
    So QDK could not do what Jos does down the order? But because he is good enough to open he gets to be compared to Warner, Gayle, Guptill etc... Sorry don`t see the logic. Maybe better batsmen are put near the top of the order, so there are more quality batsmen there to be destructive?

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    I think what he means is that now teams generally have someone like QDK in their ranks while someone like Jos is hard to come by. Most of the mentioned teams would rather have Buttler because they already have a solid opening partnership.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burner View Post
    I think what he means is that now teams generally have someone like QDK in their ranks while someone like Jos is hard to come by. Most of the mentioned teams would rather have Buttler because they already have a solid opening partnership.
    It's not a draft though, I don't think it's right to compare then that way.
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    "A player like QdK" in that they're an aggressive opening batsman is a ridiculous point to make. You can't club them all together, then say it's not fair to do the same with finishers that aren't "in the same class"

    QdK doesn't really seem to have many weaknesses as a batsman, I'd have him above Jos. He has more runs, and more tons, in few games. No brainer.

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    Concerning the world cup tbf he had just come back from a rather big ankle injury and was probably rushed back. He did have a poor tournament besides the quarter final innings.

    For me QDK everyday over joss but then quinny is one of my favorites so no surprise there.

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