Who are the most underated and overated players

[tooextracool]

Overrated
tino best

not too many people even rate him!i do though

Underrated
Andrew Strauss

well hes only played one test match and im sure hes rated highly....perhaps he was underrated before the first test

 

[tooextracool]

Under Rated
A lot of these are rated highly, but they arent given credit for being outstanding in their field...
4. Makhaya Ntini

if anything hes overrated

9. Nico Boje

has he done anything at all to be rated??

12. Jason Gillespie

definetly not underrated

Over Rated
4. Mornantau Hayward

does he even play anymore?

5. Sean Ervine

why because he plays for the worst team in the world and yet averages over 30.overrated as a bowler...underrated as a batsman.

8. Dwayne Smith

seriously when are you going to watch him bat?

 

[tooextracool]

I think he is better than Lara anyway

which is precisely why hes overrated.

 

[tooextracool]

Ponting averages more than Lara in tests anyway.......

does he play for a side that gets 47 all out???until ponting scores big in india im not going to rate him as anything more than "good"

Not to mention one of the finest fielders in the game and what looks to be a far more impressive leader than Lara....

are we talking about batting ability or leadership qualities??

 

[tooextracool]

Overrated - V Sehwag, VVS Laxman, Trescothick, Justin Langer, Shoaib Akhtar

strangely enough i agree with you there

 

[marc71178]

irfan pathan overrated ?

irfan pathan is highly underrrated.he is the best fast bowler among the current ones and is the only fast bowler among the surrent ones who can match the old greats like marshall, akram, etc.

Whoa there - after 5 games, he is not the best current fast bowler and there are other current fast bowlers who are a lot closer to Marshall, Akram etc. (although that's an interesting pair to rate as the top 2)

 

[marc71178]

most overrated - indian batting
most underrated - indian bowling

Disagree on both - think they're rated about right.

The Indian bowling has never performed well enough consistently enough to be under-rated...

 

[chicane]

Disagree on both - think they're rated about right.

The Indian bowling has never performed well enough consistently enough to be under-rated...

I disagree with both of bhooth nath's posts, but the Indian bowlers have recently been pretty much up against Australia, who are very tough to bowl to. In Pakistan, our bowlers were fantastic and won us matches. In the 2003 World Cup our bowlers won us matches. They are under-rated.

 

[Sudeep]

Disagree on both - think they're rated about right.

The Indian bowling has never performed well enough consistently enough to be under-rated...

Completely agree with you. Apart from Irfan Pathan, no pace bowler has performed consistently. Zaheer has gone from hero to zero, largely because he can't keep fit.

Like I said in the other thread, Nehra seems just too arrogant, also the worst fielder ever.

Balaji has shown signs of being good, but it's still a long way before we can rate him. Actually, similar applies to Pathan, though I said earlier that he has performed consistely He has done so for the start, let's see if he continues or not.

He has played only two series, and we're putting him over the moon. The guy is awesome, no doubt, but let's to have him go through what we gave Zaheer.

 

[chicane]

Completely agree with you. Apart from Irfan Pathan, no pace bowler has performed consistently. Zaheer has gone from hero to zero, largely because he can't keep fit.

He's gone from hero to zero but he will come back.

Like I said in the other thread, Nehra seems just too arrogant, also the worst fielder ever.

Balaji has shown signs of being good, but it's still a long way before we can rate him. Actually, similar applies to Pathan, though I said earlier that he has performed consistely He has done so for the start, let's see if he continues or not.

Nehra is considered a bit of an eccentric by teammates. And not to sure if he's the worst ever.

He has played only two series, and we're putting him over the moon. The guy is awesome, no doubt, but let's to have him go through what we gave Zaheer.

We're not putting him over the moon i.e better than the greats of past and present. He will have lows in his career, just like Zaheer now, but he is awesome and is a dream for a team like India and there will be hype. You don't wanna join in, your choice.

 

[Sudeep]

He's gone from hero to zero but he will come back.

Nehra is considered a bit of an eccentric by teammates. And not to sure if he's the worst ever.

We're not putting him over the moon i.e better than the greats of past and present. He will have lows in his career, just like Zaheer now, but he is awesome and is a dream for a team like India and there will be hype. You don't wanna join in, your choice.

We always seem to disagree don't we?

I DID say Irfan is awesome. Did you read my reply in the Irfan thread? Wasn't that praise? Though in a more jovial way...

I never said Zaheer won't come back, I just said what everyone knows, that he has gone from hero to zero, which essentially meant he's in a bad form and shape, that's it.

And name one fielder worse than Nehra.

 

[chicane]

We always seem to disagree don't we?

I DID say Irfan is awesome. Did you read my reply in the Irfan thread? Wasn't that praise? Though in a more jovial way...

I never said Zaheer won't come back, I just said what everyone knows, that he has gone from hero to zero, which essentially meant he's in a bad form and shape, that's it.

And name one fielder worse than Nehra.

Yeah you said Irfan was awesome but I was just justifying the hype around him. Yeah you didn't say it and I know what you meant, but still One fielder worse than Nehra - hmm Courtney Walsh. Or maybe from our own team? The three Karnatakites Srinath, Prasad and Kumble(though he has improved offlate). Nehra isn't very good saving runs but he's a reasonably safe catcher.

 

[Sudeep]

Yeah you said Irfan was awesome but I was just justifying the hype around him. Yeah you didn't say it and I know what you meant, but still One fielder worse than Nehra - hmm Courtney Walsh. Or maybe from our own team? The three Karnatakites Srinath, Prasad and Kumble(though he has improved offlate). Nehra isn't very good saving runs but he's a reasonably safe catcher.

IMO, those three are/were (whichever applies) better than Nehra.

Yes, Nehra is a reasonable catcher, but he doesn't have the spirit or will for saving runs. And you can't be a good fielder based on just catching.

Srinath wasn't the best of fielders, but even with a bad shoulder at times, he managed decently. I won't rate the three Kanatakites below Nehra.

 

[Tom Halsey]

Under Rated
Saqlain Mushtaq

Has bowled the biggest load of tripe I have ever seen recently.

To quote Thommo:

'He is on one massive, loop-the-loop ride, to the **** heap.

 

[Langeveldt]

Boje - consecutive hundreds against NZ and a good SLA bowler.. Yet still people talk about Paul Adams and not Boje

Ervine - The fact he shines in a mediocre team should have nothing to do with his rating.. Ditto Lara..

Gillespie - Seems to have been over shadowed by McGrath and Lee.. In my opinion anyway

Makhaya Ntini - Cant see how the second? highest wicket taker of 2003 can be over rated... Outstanding quick bowler..

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

And my opinion matches the general consensus..

Maybe its true then?

Very few people rate Ponting better than Lara. Most who do tend to be Australian.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

does he play for a side that gets 47 all out???until ponting scores big in india im not going to rate him as anything more than "good"



are we talking about batting ability or leadership qualities??

Ponting is more than 'good', but not quite there with Lara.... yet.

Re: captaincy. I don't think you'd have seen Australia capitulating had Lara been able to captain them...

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Ervine - The fact he shines in a mediocre team should have nothing to do with his rating.. Ditto Lara..

What about Heath Streak? Does the fact that certain players have to literally shoulder the fate of their side mean nothing to you?

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Not to mention one of the finest fielders in the game

Brian Lara is undoubtedly one of the most under-rated fielders in the game.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Over Rated

8. Dwayne Smith

This is seriously bordering on ignorance Rich. He's not a godsend, but no one rates him as one. Watch the young man bat. If that's not talented, I don't know what is.