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    yusss just what we needed

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    Quote Originally Posted by wellAlbidarned View Post
    If the keeper stands in front of the stumps it negates any chance of a direct hit, so it's not a worthwhile tactic imo.
    How many times do you get a direct hit? 10%?
    How many extra frames do you lose by taking the ball in front and bringing it on? 2?

    How many times can you do things quicker by taking it in front? 50%
    How many frames do you gain? 4?

    It's a no-brainer if you're good enough to effect the takes.

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    Looked like a genuine attempted seam-up inswinger from Southee too, interesting.
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    Nice one Southee!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meridio View Post
    Don't think people are talking about standing in front of the stumps - more reaching with the hands to get them in front.

    Southee! Thought it looked plumb live and was reasonably sure it was pad first. Hooray for DRS!
    Either or. Watling needs to take some blame for that because it wasn't great on his part.

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    Exactly the sort of decision DRS is for. not even a howler by the umpire as it was marginal in real time as to whether it was pad first or bat. great to see the correct decisions coming for things like that now though even if it is bad for my lot.

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    Urghh, was just talking to my old man about how the best way to try and win would be to bat once and just get as many as possible (i.e. not worry about the run rate) looks like our last chance of doing that is gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Pickup View Post
    How many times do you get a direct hit? 10%?
    How many extra frames do you lose by taking the ball in front and bringing it on? 2?

    How many times can you do things quicker by taking it in front? 50%
    How many frames do you gain? 4?

    It's a no-brainer if you're good enough to effect the takes.

    Right, come on Yorkshire...
    You don't gain anything from taking the ball in front, because the ball travels faster through the air than in the the gloves. The ball should be taken as close to directly above the stumps as possible. I wasn't watching Watling's positioning particularly carefully, though so it's a fair criticism if he was too far back.

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    Nice to see someone with the balls to be creative and unorthodox with captaincy.

    Particularly refreshing after watching deep points for six weeks with Cook v Dhoni in India...

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    Forum crashed with the excitement of a Southee wicket... or maybe it was just for me . Southee's doing two things he was unable to yesterday - get his regular outswing from a couple of balls that have started a bit straighter, and get the odd ball to tail in slightly as well.

    Still a fair few balls that are non-threatening though.

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    Jono!!!!

    Seriously don't know what Atherton was banging on about earlier.

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    Sorry guys but we're going to lose the test. Have good evidence from FB that Ed is at the ground today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wellAlbidarned View Post
    You don't gain anything from taking the ball in front, because the ball travels faster through the air than in the the gloves. The ball should be taken as close to directly above the stumps as possible. I wasn't watching Watling's positioning particularly carefully, though so it's a fair criticism if he was too far back.
    No. Categorically no.

    The fastest way to take the bails is with the hands marginally in front of the stumps, then using the momentum of the ball and your body position to direct it back onto the stumps. Take the ball above or behind the stumps, and your wrists and glovework have to be superhuman to avoid time delay and useless, counterproductive movement away from the stumps before you then have to initiate the movement back to the stumps.

    Actually, the more I watch Watling the more I notice how close he tends to take the ball to his chest. Wonder how much that will affect him in England when the ball starts wobbling.

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    How is that a wide?



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