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    I'd rather see James Marshall in the Test team than Colin. In fact, I'd rather see Colin Maiden Oval in the Test team than CdG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeathDavisSpeed View Post
    I'd rather see James Marshall in the Test team than Colin. In fact, I'd rather see Colin Maiden Oval in the Test team than CdG.
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    For me it should be out of:

    Neil Broom- out of form but one of the best first class players not to play test cricket
    Daniel Flynn- showed potential and still pretty young. He's been out for a long time and it might be a bit late for him to make a run for the spot.
    James Franklin- averages 90+ in the season so far and has international experience. He's in the T20 squad so he's not entirely blacklisted.
    Jesse Ryder- depends if he gets through the three PS games before the test match. If he does that might be enough.

    Neil Broom was the biggest failure from memory selection-wise. We pick him in ODIs the format he's not overly great at and half of the games he played for us he was basically playing a finisher role so he was destined to fail. He's just out of form at the wrong times which is a shame. Daniel Flynn is much the same with his injury.

    I don't think Nicol and Wells should be in the mix for a spot like this. The test match number 5 should be selected from our next best first class batsman.
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    I can see them just pushing BJ Watling up to 5, and bringing in Kruger van Wyk to keep.

    Neil Broom isn't going to be selected, unfortunately. The dumbarse selectors ruined him by picking him in the wrong format, in the wrong role. And never selected him for his best format, even when he was in his best form.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane View Post
    He's only broken down in one test hasn't he.

    Injured many times - but unable to run during an inning = one test?
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    If Brownlie's out for just the one test, who could really go past the same man we used in the March '04 series for a one-off gig in the middle-order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kippax View Post
    If Brownlie's out for just the one test, who could really go past the same man we used in the March '04 series for a one-off gig in the middle-order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeathDavisSpeed View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane View Post
    Brownlie may be out for the tests (possibility of missing the 1st test at this stage). Cant believe there is now a serious debate between Ryder and Nicol for the number 5 spot.

    They must really be fed up with Ryder...
    Damn, didn't know Brownlie's injury would keep him out that long.

    There are two rounds of domestic FC before the test squad for SA will be named, so hard to predict right now who will put their hand up. Hoping Flynn is fit and scores some runs. Though if Ryder can get through those FC matches without injury that might be enough for him as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike5181 View Post
    For me it should be out of:

    Neil Broom- out of form but one of the best first class players not to play test cricket
    Daniel Flynn- showed potential and still pretty young. He's been out for a long time and it might be a bit late for him to make a run for the spot.
    James Franklin- averages 90+ in the season so far and has international experience. He's in the T20 squad so he's not entirely blacklisted.
    Jesse Ryder- depends if he gets through the three PS games before the test match. If he does that might be enough.

    Neil Broom was the biggest failure from memory selection-wise. We pick him in ODIs the format he's not overly great at and half of the games he played for us he was basically playing a finisher role so he was destined to fail. He's just out of form at the wrong times which is a shame. Daniel Flynn is much the same with his injury.

    I don't think Nicol and Wells should be in the mix for a spot like this. The test match number 5 should be selected from our next best first class batsman.
    Good summary - awta. Though KiwiNinja's post on playing both Watling and Van Wyk is the exact sort of confused decision NZ selectors have liked to make in the past.

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    If Ryder and Brownlie are out Franklin should definitely play IMO. Would have Flynn in as the cover for the other bat (and possibly in ahead of Franklin if only one misses out) if he is fit and seems in good form to the selectors.
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    Littlejohn said medical staff were confident Brownlie could recover in time for the first test. If he were passed fit, there would seemingly be no place for Ryder with only five frontline batsmen now being used.

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    Hope Richard Levi impresses enough in T20s to stay over for the one-day leg of the tour.

    The small boundaries and him could be interesting.

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    Cricket | South Africa already have hearts racing | Stuff.co.nz

    Protea cricketers already getting hearts racing
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    OPINION: When the marketing people forecast South Africa's cricket tour going off with a bang, they probably didn't have this in mind.

    Mid-answer at the press conference in the Basin Reserve's Norwood Room, South Africa's coach Gary Kirsten was stopped in his tracks by shattering glass and a noise like a shotgun blast.

    "That's a cricket ball," a stunned Kirsten announced.

    Indeed it was, as the white ball bounced across the shards of what was previously a window and heart rates slowly returned to normal.

    The culprit was South African player Wayne Parnell, not a noted batsman but clearly capable.

    It's some effort from the centre of the Basin.

    It was a fitting way to announce the arrival of one of world cricket's glamour teams amid a flatlining summer for home fans.

    Zimbabwe's inept showings, particularly their catching, had everyone seeing red and wishing them bon voyage. And their tour's still going.

    It's eight years since South Africa's previous New Zealand visit and of the T20 squad who touched down on Saturday, just Albie Morkel and Robin Peterson return.

    And coach Kirsten, who farewelled test cricket on that 2004 tour.

    There were some early hiccups. The manager, on his first visit to Wellington, drove a team mini-van but took a wrong turn and ended up in Evans Bay.

    Training at the Basin began nearly 30 minutes late.

    South Africa travel with their own security guard, clad in team kit, and he seemed alarmed the Basin was a public thoroughfare.

    Bemused punters strolled around, some wondering who the blokes in green and gold were as they dodged flying cricket balls.

    In South Africa, the team bus is accompanied by an armed motorcade, and the players don't disembark until outside the dressing room, safely inside the barbed wire fencing of Kingsmead or Newlands.

    They played football on the Basin then took to the nets and had turns trying to hit balls out of the ground (or through the glass, as Parnell managed).

    Kirsten ran a torrid fielding session and had his charges on the grass for close to four hours, removing the cobwebs before the first T20 international at Westpac Stadium on Friday.

    Dale Steyn, Jacques Kallis, Graeme Smith and Mark Boucher arrive later in the series.

    Unfamiliar faces like Richard Levi and Rusty Theron got their bearings.

    Kirsten labelled his team young and exciting. Levi, looking like a stocky second five-eighth, is their new T20 batsman who apparently makes his Cape Cobras opening partner, Herschelle Gibbs, look like Geoff Boycott.

    Mind those windows at the stadium on Friday.

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